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==Academic section==
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Bibipi, you put [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513808001177 two] [https://d-nb.info/997448148/34 main] sources in there and I feel your writing did not accurately use those sources. You insinuated they both said men's natural desire to provide for women creates hypergamy.  Which neither of them say, and the second one had hardly anything to say about natural sexuality at all. Regardless of how much it is true (which of course there is truth to that) one source spoke of men's desire to provide as primarily a market dynamic.  The dynamic of women being sexual selectors, '''withholding sex, and demanding favors of men''' ('''rather than men pushing favors onto women in some original sin bullshit religious line-of-thinking''').  Men also have a natural desire to have sex without "working-the-land" or otherwise bribing women as well, don't see much reason to missread sources to overemphasis how much men naturally want to work for women.  Also as an anecdote, most self-identified incels appear to not want to work for women, see this [https://incels.co/threads/most-of-you-healthy-and-confident-enough-will-pair-up-in-your-thirties.155010/ thread] [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:22, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Bibipi, you put [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513808001177 two] [https://d-nb.info/997448148/34 main] sources in there and I feel your writing did not accurately use those sources. You insinuated they both said men's natural desire to provide for women creates hypergamy.  Which neither of them say, and the second one had hardly anything to say about natural sexuality at all. Regardless of how much it is true (which of course there is truth to that) one source spoke of men's desire to provide as primarily a market dynamic.  The dynamic of women being sexual selectors, '''withholding sex, and demanding favors of men''' ('''rather than men being too naturally sexually greedy and pushing favors onto women in some original sin bullshit religious line-of-thinking''').  Men also have a natural desire to have sex without "working-the-land" or otherwise bribing women as well, don't see much reason to missread sources to overemphasis how much men naturally want to work for women.  Also as an anecdote, most self-identified incels appear to not want to work for women, see this [https://incels.co/threads/most-of-you-healthy-and-confident-enough-will-pair-up-in-your-thirties.155010/ thread] [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:22, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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