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Believers in the blackpill have a wide variety of opinions about what needs or can be done about the systemic issues outlined above, from pessimistic nihilism/fatalism,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/nobody-will-ever-love-you.144830/</ref>
Believers in the blackpill have a wide variety of opinions about what needs or can be done about the systemic issues outlined above, from pessimistic nihilism/fatalism,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/nobody-will-ever-love-you.144830/</ref>
to [[Tradcon|traditionalist]] beliefs such as returning to the nuclear family<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref>, to stoicism, to genetic engineering or other technologies.
to [[Tradcon|traditionalist]] beliefs such as returning to the nuclear family<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref>, to stoicism, to genetic engineering or other technologies.
Traditionalism may not be a solution for everyone, but it is thought to at least improve the situation greatly for most people.
Some regard religion as necessary, while others simply propose atheistic monogamy.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref>
Some regard religion as necessary, while others simply propose atheistic monogamy.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref>
Some [[tradcon#Other_Criticism|fear]] that a return to religion, hierarchies and chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman) will only lead to an exploitation of low status males, e.g. by duty to die in war or economic exploitation.
Some [[tradcon#Other_Criticism|fear]] that a return to religion, hierarchies and chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman) will only lead to an exploitation of low status males, e.g. by duty to die in war or economic exploitation.
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Extending the idea of introducing laws and rules to regulate behavior like in ''state-issued girlfriends'', one can consider various ways of punishing singlehood and promiscuity, and reinforcing pairing up monogamously, whether by removing existing conditions (negative) or introducing new ones (positive).  
Extending the idea of introducing laws and rules to regulate behavior like in ''state-issued girlfriends'', one can consider various ways of punishing singlehood and promiscuity, and reinforcing pairing up monogamously, whether by removing existing conditions (negative) or introducing new ones (positive).  
Blackpillers have proposed state subvention could pay male and female incels for pairing up (''positive reinforcement'').{{citation needed}} Similarly, it has been proposed to disincentivize promiscuity and singlehood instead, e.g. by taxing promiscuous behavior<ref>https://www.academia.edu/40699045/Flower_Power_Tax_Academic_Supports_FULL_</ref> and singles (''positive punishment''). Further, one could remove burdens that are associated with pairing up, e.g. abolishing harassment laws and no-fault [[divorce]] laws (''negative reinforcement'').
Blackpillers have proposed state subvention could pay male and female incels for pairing up (''positive reinforcement'').<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/NKL</ref> Similarly, it has been proposed to disincentivize promiscuity and singlehood instead, e.g. by taxing promiscuous behavior<ref>https://www.academia.edu/40699045/Flower_Power_Tax_Academic_Supports_FULL_</ref> and singles (''positive punishment''). Further, one could remove burdens that are associated with pairing up, e.g. abolishing harassment laws and no-fault [[divorce]] laws (''negative reinforcement'').
Lastly, one could e.g. deprive female singles of certain benefits they may have (''negative punishment''). Of course there may be ethical concerns.
Lastly, one could e.g. deprive female singles of certain benefits they may have (''negative punishment''). Of course there may be ethical concerns.
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