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[[File:Messages OkCupid.png|right|thumb|400x400px|On OkCupid, women receive 8 times as many messages per week as men even though the sex ratio is even and men in online dating are not uglier than elsewhere (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
[[File:Messages OkCupid.png|right|thumb|400x400px|On OkCupid, women receive 8 times as many messages per week as men even though the sex ratio is even and men in online dating are not uglier than elsewhere (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
There is a host of evidence that women are much more choosy maters than men. For example, women receive on average 20 times as many matches as men on Tinder, which suggests men are more promiscuous.<ref>Gareth Tyson, Vasile C. Perta, Hamed Haddadi, Michael C. Seto, Queen Mary University of London, Sapienza University of Rome, Royal Ottawa Health Care Group A First Look at User Activity on Tinder</ref>
Women are much more choosy than men and [[Libido|have a lower sex drive]]. Even in stable relationships men masturbate four times as often as women.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Libido#Masturbation</ref>
The top 10% of men get 58% of women's likes in online dating,<ref>https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer</ref><ref>ttps://qz.com/1051462/these-statistics-show-why-its-so-hard-to-be-an-average-man-on-dating-apps/</ref>
Men would also more readily agree to unsolicited invitations to sex<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_like_61.9.25_of_female_profiles.2C_women_like_only_4.5.25_of_male_profiles</ref>, they less likely regret casual sex<ref>http://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref>
and even in online dating platforms with an even sex ratio, like OkCupid one finds women receive around 8 times as many messages.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Hypergamy</ref> But lots of evidence can also be found elsewhere, for example men would much more readily agree to unsolicited invitations to sex<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_like_61.9.25_of_female_profiles.2C_women_like_only_4.5.25_of_male_profiles</ref> and they less likely regret casual sex.<ref>http://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref>
and more often regret missing out on sex.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref>
Men more often regret missing out on sex.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref>
Additionally, there are very large sex differences in sexual disgust.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref> Women are more coy (reluctant to have sex) across the globe and flirting universally consists of the man impressing the woman.<ref>https://books.google.com/books/about/Human_Ethology.html?id=WADsngEACAAJ</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1080/00224490903402520</ref>
Additionally, there are very large sex differences in sexual disgust.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref> Women are more coy (reluctant to have sex) across the globe and flirting universally consists of the man impressing the woman.<ref>https://books.google.com/books/about/Human_Ethology.html?id=WADsngEACAAJ</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1080/00224490903402520</ref>
Women overwhelmingly prefer being asked out on dates vs doing the asking, presumably to more easily choose between different men by deferring the responsibility of the initiation on the men.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#93.25_of_women_preferred_being_asked_out_on_a_date_rather_than_doing_the_asking</ref>
Women overwhelmingly prefer being asked out on dates vs doing the asking, presumably to more easily choose between different men by deferring the responsibility of the initiation on the men.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#93.25_of_women_preferred_being_asked_out_on_a_date_rather_than_doing_the_asking</ref>
Related to this, women receive on average 20 times as many matches as men on Tinder, which suggests men are more promiscuous.<ref>Gareth Tyson, Vasile C. Perta, Hamed Haddadi, Michael C. Seto, Queen Mary University of London, Sapienza University of Rome, Royal Ottawa Health Care Group A First Look at User Activity on Tinder</ref>
The top 10% of men get 58% of women's likes in online dating,<ref>https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer</ref><ref>ttps://qz.com/1051462/these-statistics-show-why-its-so-hard-to-be-an-average-man-on-dating-apps/</ref>
and even in online dating platforms with an even sex ratio, like OkCupid one finds women receive around 8 times as many messages.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Hypergamy</ref>
Men are more choosy about looks for long-term relationships than for short-term relationships, but women are even choosier in long-term relationships because they care about looks ''in addition'' to men's ability to provide.
Men are more choosy about looks for long-term relationships than for short-term relationships, but women are even choosier in long-term relationships because they care about looks ''in addition'' to men's ability to provide.
Women are thought to have reproduced twice as reliably as men throughout history, possibly largely due to their greater choosiness or, equivalently, [[libido|men's greater promiscuity]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Before_.27enforced_monogamy.27.2C_women.27s_effective_population_size_was_up_to_17x_larger_than_men.27s</ref>
Women are thought to have reproduced twice as reliably as men throughout history, possibly largely due to their greater choosiness or, equivalently, [[libido|men's greater promiscuity]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Before_.27enforced_monogamy.27.2C_women.27s_effective_population_size_was_up_to_17x_larger_than_men.27s</ref>


[[File:poorcel2.png|thumb|right|Number of received messages by income bracket and age (OkCupid Blog). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_prefer_men_with_high_income_and_high_educational_status|More information]].]]
[[File:poorcel2.png|thumb|right|Number of received messages by income bracket and age (OkCupid Blog). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_prefer_men_with_high_income_and_high_educational_status|More information]].]]
Women's [[hypergamy]] is their tendency or preference to ''date up'' and it is a particular form or result of their choosiness. Namely, a woman tends to not only want a good partner, but one who is better than herself or better than other available partners or her current partner.
As a result of being choosy, women are [[hypergamy|hypergamous]], meaning they tend to ''date up''. A woman tends to not only want a good partner, but one who is better than herself or better than other available partners or her current partner.
This preference ties into the natural [[Human dominance hierarchies|hierarchical organization in humans]]. Male intrasexual competition as well as mere genetic dispositions such as differences in physical strength give rise to males with highest peer popularity, rank or status (alpha males) and males with lower status (beta males).
This preference ties into the natural [[Human dominance hierarchies|hierarchical organization in humans]].
Men do not care about women's socioeconomic status and achievements, but women care a lot about men's.<ref>ftp://repec.iza.org/RePEc/Discussionpaper/dp11933.pdf</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref>
Men do not care about women's socioeconomic status and achievements, but women care a lot about men's.<ref>ftp://repec.iza.org/RePEc/Discussionpaper/dp11933.pdf</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref>
Women with higher income tend to have preference for a man with even higher income, while men have no such preferences.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408</ref>
Women with higher income tend to have a preference for men with even higher income, while men have no such preferences.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408</ref>
Women are prone to instability when they are more attractive than their male partner.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691500505X</ref>
Women are prone to instability when they are more attractive than their male partner.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691500505X</ref>
What is more, there is evidence of women refusing to date down in educational status or marry men with lower income than their own, and preferring to remain single when they cannot date up or across the social hierarchy.<ref>https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_lose_mating_opportunities_with_higher_status.2C_men_gain_mating_opportunities</ref><ref>https://doi.org/10.1093/qje/qjv001</ref><ref>https://fee.org/articles/why-single-women-are-way-more-likely-to-own-a-home-than-single-men/</ref><ref>https://newsroom.wiley.com/press-release/journal-marriage-and-family/do-unmarried-women-face-shortages-partners-us-marriage-mar</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12603</ref>
What is more, there is evidence of women refusing to date down in educational status or marry men with lower income than their own, and preferring to remain single when they cannot date up or across the social hierarchy.<ref>https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_lose_mating_opportunities_with_higher_status.2C_men_gain_mating_opportunities</ref><ref>https://doi.org/10.1093/qje/qjv001</ref><ref>https://fee.org/articles/why-single-women-are-way-more-likely-to-own-a-home-than-single-men/</ref><ref>https://newsroom.wiley.com/press-release/journal-marriage-and-family/do-unmarried-women-face-shortages-partners-us-marriage-mar</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12603</ref>
This means that as women surpass more men in socioeconomic status, more men are becoming sexually unattractive with regards to women's hypergamous preferences.
This means, as women surpass men in socioeconomic status, more men are becoming sexually unattractive.
Since women are constantly anxious about not having the best man available, they get bored with relationships and sex sooner,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref>
Since women are always anxious about not having the best man available, they get bored with relationships and sex sooner,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref>
and women are more likely to initiate divorce across a wide variety of cultures<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_initiate_69.25_of_divorces</ref> and have been in the US at least since year 1862.<ref>http://www.web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf</ref>
and women are more likely to initiate divorce across a wide variety of cultures<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_initiate_69.25_of_divorces</ref>
and have been in the US at least since year 1862.<ref>http://www.web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf</ref>
Further, women prefer partnered men over single men which may be related to women's preference for high status.<ref>http://digital.library.okstate.edu/etd/umi-okstate-2649.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103109001048</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1660608/</ref> Men do not show such preferences.
Further, women prefer partnered men over single men which may be related to women's preference for high status.<ref>http://digital.library.okstate.edu/etd/umi-okstate-2649.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103109001048</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1660608/</ref> Men do not show such preferences.


From the viewpoint of evolutionary psychology, hypergamy naturally follows from sex differences in sex drive and women's preference for high status men: Men have a [[Libido|higher sex drive]],<ref>https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Is-There-a-Gender-Difference-in-Strength-of-Sex-and-Baumeister-Catanese/5f8446340d4ed375007351539e7993fa44e2e31b</ref>
In terms of evolutionary psychology, hypergamy and women's choosiness can be explained by sex differences in [[Bateman's principle|parental investment]], which in turn results in sex differences in sex drive.
likely because they have less [[Bateman's principle|parental investment]].
This results in women having much more options to choose from and in chronic sexual frustration for most men.<ref>Baumeister, R.F. and Tice, D.M., 2001. The social dimension of sex. Allyn & Bacon.</ref>
This results in women having much more options to choose from and in chronic sexual frustration for most men.<ref>Baumeister, R.F. and Tice, D.M., 2001. The social dimension of sex. Allyn & Bacon.</ref>
Both men and women aim up to roughly the same extent and few aim unrealistically high,<ref>https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf</ref>
Both men and women aim up to roughly the same extent and few aim unrealistically high,<ref>https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf</ref>
but since men have fewer alternative mating options available to them, they more readily make compromises and eventually date down,<ref>https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf</ref>
but since men have fewer alternative mating options available to them, they more readily make compromises and eventually date down,<ref>https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf</ref>
particularly if they experience frequent rejection.<ref>https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/abs/10.1027/1864-9335/a000392</ref>
particularly if they experience frequent rejection.<ref>https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/abs/10.1027/1864-9335/a000392</ref>
This this reason, the population of male incels [[Demographics|tends to be larger]] and female incels are likely more often [[volcels|volcel]].


From the viewpoint of economics, one can also regard sexual relationships as a deal and study them with market principles.
In terms of economics, one can also regard sexual relationships as a deal and study them with market principles.
Women want resources from men because women have been heavily dependent on men's resources throughout history.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref>
Women want resources from men because women have been heavily dependent on men's resources throughout history.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref>
Men want sex and also certainty that the offspring in which they invest their resources is theirs (a problem that women do not face).<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12496732</ref>
Men want sex and also certainty that the offspring in which they invest their resources is theirs (a problem that women do not face).<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12496732</ref>
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