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Jordan has been fairly critical when it comes to incels who have committed violence. He gave a positive nod to incels on the Joe Rogan podcast.  On the podcast he repeated a talking point earlier used by left-wing cultural critic [[Angela Nagle]], white nationalist [[Roger Devlin]], and American bishop Erastus Otis Haven<ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=-kdWAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA171&dq=%22Involuntary+celibacy,+or+celibacy+assumed+as+a+badge+of+a+class,+binding+its+members+against+matrimony,+has+proved+productive+of+great+evils.+This+is+a+great+error+of+that+sect+calling+itself+the+Roman+Catholic+Church.+History+abundantly+proves+...%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIiI2Az-TkAhXBUt8KHUJ3CqwQ6AEwAXoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=%22Involuntary%20celibacy%2C%20or%20celibacy%20assumed%20as%20a%20badge%20of%20a%20class%2C%20binding%20its%20members%20against%20matrimony%2C%20has%20proved%20productive%20of%20great%20evils.%20This%20is%20a%20great%20error%20of%20that%20sect%20calling%20itself%20the%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church.%20History%20abundantly%20proves%20...%22&f=false</ref>: "the breakdown of [[monogamy]] has strong correlation with inceldom".
Jordan has been fairly critical when it comes to incels who have committed violence. He gave a positive nod to incels on the Joe Rogan podcast.  On the podcast he repeated a talking point earlier used by left-wing cultural critic [[Angela Nagle]], white nationalist [[Roger Devlin]], and American bishop Erastus Otis Haven<ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=-kdWAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA171&dq=%22Involuntary+celibacy,+or+celibacy+assumed+as+a+badge+of+a+class,+binding+its+members+against+matrimony,+has+proved+productive+of+great+evils.+This+is+a+great+error+of+that+sect+calling+itself+the+Roman+Catholic+Church.+History+abundantly+proves+...%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIiI2Az-TkAhXBUt8KHUJ3CqwQ6AEwAXoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=%22Involuntary%20celibacy%2C%20or%20celibacy%20assumed%20as%20a%20badge%20of%20a%20class%2C%20binding%20its%20members%20against%20matrimony%2C%20has%20proved%20productive%20of%20great%20evils.%20This%20is%20a%20great%20error%20of%20that%20sect%20calling%20itself%20the%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church.%20History%20abundantly%20proves%20...%22&f=false</ref>: "the breakdown of [[monogamy]] has strong correlation with inceldom".
=== Other beliefs ===
Peterson claims that in order to prevent cultural dissolution, humans need an overarching goal such as economic growth or religious/transcendental goals.
To avoid corrupted hierarchies, he claims, it is necessary to keep them fairly flat (decentralization) and use regulated free market, such that the players best prevails and inefficient and corrupt players get outcompeted by better ones. He sees boundaries and social rules as fundamental for a functioning social system, but admits there also needs to be some adaptability and flow of information (free speech) to avoid a totalitarian state (''classical liberalism'').


=== "Nickel Theory" ===
=== "Nickel Theory" ===
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<li>in enforced monogamy people must be married to have sex, and if you get divorced you have to go through a 6 month waiting period where you are not allowed to have sex, this is to discourage people from getting married and then divorced for every hookup</li></ul>
<li>in enforced monogamy people must be married to have sex, and if you get divorced you have to go through a 6 month waiting period where you are not allowed to have sex, this is to discourage people from getting married and then divorced for every hookup</li></ul>
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== Beliefs ==
Peterson claims that in order to prevent cultural dissolution, states need an overarching goal such as economic growth or religious/transcendental goals and a decent amount of uniformity and hierarchical organization.
To avoid corrupted hierarchies, he claims, it is necessary to keep them fairly flat (decentralization) and use regulated free market such that the best players prevail and inefficient/corrupt players get outcompeted/destroyed by better ones. He regards boundaries and social norms as fundamental for a functioning state, but admits there also needs to be some adaptability and flow of information (free speech) to avoid a totalitarian state (''classical liberalism''). It is naive to assume there is a definite set of rules for ideally structuring a state (ideology), except for leaving up the determination of the rules, to a competitive process with free speech. For this reason, men need to be socialized to be competitive and dependable.


== JRE Podcast & accusations of hypocrisy ==
== JRE Podcast & accusations of hypocrisy ==
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