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These insights are central to the [[red pill]] and the [[black pill]].
These insights are central to the [[red pill]] and the [[black pill]].


==White knights==
==Fake nice guys==
 
Both womanospherians and manospherians accuse many men of being "fake nice", but in different ways. Womanospherians seem to have a problem with virtually all genuinely nice guys, but will label them as Nice Guys™ (see r/niceguys).  Manospherians are more tolerant to nice guys (see [[Karen Straughan]]) but are very critical of men who they perceive as being much more nice to women than as to men.  Who they call [[white knight]]s.
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A ''white knight'' is a nice guy who acts particularly ''sneakily'' or even manipulatively towards females. White knights may defend females from verbal or physical insults. Not rarely, they will throw other men under the bus only to increase their chance with a woman, or only to appear [[virtue signaling|socially favorable]]. White knights are tremendously convinced of their moral superiority, typically motivated by [[feminism]] and, unwittingly, by their sexual frustration.
 
Both women and men ''hate'' white knights. Women hate them because their niceness pressures them into reciprocity, but nice men do not fulfill [[Hypergamy|women's mating preference for the most dominant male available]]. An exclusively nice man cannot be dominant.
 
Men hate white knights because they inflate women's egos and standards:
 
<blockquote>Whiteknights betas IRL make me rage more than anything. Online it's pretty much unavoidable, people have no shame on the internet. But lowering yourself to the same [[social status]] as a fucking turd IN PERSON, WILLINGLY, is the saddest thing ever. The reason I say this is because near my locker at school is located a [[beta male]], fedora-wearing whiteknight, who whiteknights the ever living shit out of a 6/10 plain jane who treats him like a sack of rotten piss.
 
I just want to beat the shit out of his pathetic ass, wake him up. this bitch is mentioning HAVING SEX WITH SOME GUY WHILE TALKING TO HIM!!!!! She's always talking about getting fucked like the whore she is, and complains how her [[slayer]] [[fuckbuddies]] treat her badly, while he stands there laughing, probably waiting to jack off to her pics later that night.</blockquote>
 
The most contradictory occurrence of white knights can be found on [[anti-incel|anti-incels]] forums, where the users generally agree that pressuring a woman into sex by being nice is obtrusive, yet the men active in these places appear to largely be doing just that. For this reason, it is thought anti-incel ideology is inherently self-destructive and that most such incel-haters as well as [[Male feminist|male femininsts]] are incels themselves.


== Notable "nice guys" in the incelosphere ==
== Notable "nice guys" in the incelosphere ==
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