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The '''blackpill''' is the claim that traditionalism<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> is a necessary response to [[the incel problem]] to prevent social collapse.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> Some blackpillers think that social collapse has already arrived and is irreversable in our lifetime and hence advocate fatalism.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref> Blackpillers are mostly concerned with rising [[lookism]] which started after the industrial and sexual revolutions. Since blackpillers believe looks are the primary factor in dating, they have animosity toward [[PUA|pick-up artists]] and | The '''blackpill''' is the claim that traditionalism<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> is a necessary response to [[the incel problem]] to prevent social collapse.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> Some blackpillers think that social collapse has already arrived and is irreversable in our lifetime and hence advocate fatalism.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref> Blackpillers are mostly concerned with rising [[lookism]] which started after the industrial and sexual revolutions. Since blackpillers believe looks are the primary factor in dating, they have animosity toward [[PUA|pick-up artists]] and ''[[redpill|redpillers]]'', who instead believe personality (''[[PUA#Game|game]]'') is the primary factor. Most blackpillers are atheist, but some promote cultural Christianity. | ||
Blackpillers agree that for many [[incels]], self-improvement is futile, but disagree about whether or not anything can be done about it in the short term. Most proponents seek to reduce suffering as well as [[lookism]], degeneracy, and societal decay. | Blackpillers agree that for many [[incels]], self-improvement is futile, but disagree about whether or not anything can be done about it in the short term. Most proponents seek to reduce suffering as well as [[lookism]], degeneracy, and societal decay. | ||
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==Meanings of the blackpill== | ==Meanings of the blackpill== | ||
In the [[manosphere]], the blackpill and the [[redpill]] largely overlap, but they disagree in one point: The redpill concludes men can leverage knowledge about female sexuality to improve themselves, e.g. by bodybuilding and pickup artistry, whereas the blackpill concludes that for many men self-improvement is futile in today's cultural and economic circumstances. Blackpillers believe there are factors that are mostly [[determinism|pre-determined]], i.e. outside of men's own influence, but that play a vastly underappreciated role in female mate choice. The main factors are: | In the [[manosphere]], the blackpill and the [[redpill]] largely overlap, but they disagree in one point: The redpill concludes men can leverage knowledge about female sexuality to improve themselves, e.g. by bodybuilding and [[PUA|pickup artistry]], whereas the blackpill concludes that for many men self-improvement is futile in today's cultural and economic circumstances. Blackpillers believe there are factors that are mostly [[determinism|pre-determined]], i.e. outside of men's own influence, but that play a vastly underappreciated role in female mate choice. The main factors are: | ||
* '''L'''ooks | * '''L'''ooks | ||
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* '''S'''tatus | * '''S'''tatus | ||
This triad, called ''LMS'', was popularized in non-pill-ideological [[PSL|PSL forums]] in response to the self-improvement enthusiasm of [[redpill|redpillers]] and [[pickup artists]]. | This triad, called ''LMS'', was popularized in non-pill-ideological [[PSL|PSL forums]] in response to the self-improvement enthusiasm of [[redpill|redpillers]] and [[PUA|pickup artists]]. | ||
A ''blackpill'' can also refer to a hopeless insight, or a political argument about how only traditionalism can solve dating problems. | A ''blackpill'' can also refer to a hopeless insight, or a political argument about how only traditionalism can solve dating problems. | ||