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[[File:67.jpg|thumb|right|What [[Wikipedia Incel Article|Wikipedia]] thinks incels want vs. what incels actually want <br> Also what women want vs. what men want]]
[[File:67.jpg|thumb|right|What [[Wikipedia Incel Article|Wikipedia]] thinks incels want vs. what incels actually want <br> Also what women want vs. what men want]]
[[File:fragilebigots2.png|thumb|right|Incels are the vanguard of tearing down gender roles]]
[[File:fragilebigots2.png|thumb|right|Incels are the vanguard of tearing down gender roles]]
'''Incel''' is a [[Donnelly Study#Incel is Now a Valid Academic Sociological Term|sociological term]] that is short for '''involuntary celibacy'''.<ref>journal|title=Involuntary Celibacy: A life course analysis|url=http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html|journal=The Journal of Sex Research|volume=38|pages=159–169|via=</ref><ref>encyclopedia|title=Celibacy|encyclopedia=The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Family Studies|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|date=February 29, 2016|editor-last=Shehan|editor-first=Constance L.|volume=1|page=238|isbn=9780470658451</ref><ref>Carpenter, Laura M. (2010). "Gendered Sexuality Over the Life Course: A Conceptual Framework". Sociological Perspectives. University of California Press. 53 (2): 155–178. doi:10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155. JSTOR 10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155</ref><ref>Harvey, John H.; Wenzel, Amy; Sprecher, Susan, eds. (2004). The Handbook of Sexuality in Close Relationships. Mahwah, New Jersey: Taylor & Francis. p. 900. ISBN 9781135624699. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>Strong, Bryan; Cohen, Theodore (2013). The Marriage and Family Experience: Intimate Relationships in a Changing Society. Belmont, California: Cengage Learning. p. 50. ISBN 1133597467. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>journal|A life course analysis|url=http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html|journal=The Journal of Sex Research|volume=38|pages=159–169|via=</ref><ref>encyclopedia|title=Celibacy|encyclopedia=The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Family Studies|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|date=February 29, 2016|editor-last=Shehan|editor-first=Constance L.|volume=1|page=238|isbn=9780470658451</ref><ref>Carpenter, Laura M. (2010). "Gendered Sexuality Over the Life Course: A Conceptual Framework". Sociological Perspectives. University of California Press. 53 (2): 155–178. doi:10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155. JSTOR 10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155</ref><ref>Harvey, John H.; Wenzel, Amy; Sprecher, Susan, eds. (2004). The Handbook of Sexuality in Close Relationships. Mahwah, New Jersey: Taylor & Francis. p. 900. ISBN 9781135624699. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>Strong, Bryan; Cohen, Theodore (2013). The Marriage and Family Experience: Intimate Relationships in a Changing Society. Belmont, California: Cengage Learning. p. 50. ISBN 1133597467. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref> Involuntary celibacy is an [[Netherland Government's Model for Combatting Inceldom|internationally recognized medical disability]]<ref>https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/723323/Sexual-partner-fertility-disability-World-Health-Organisation-IVF</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170503151557/https://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/04/news/04iht-sex_.html</ref> and its unabbreviated form dates back [[Antoine Banier|at least]] to the 16th century. It was first used academically in the [[Donnelly Study]] in 2001 and first [[Ton den Boon|lexicographically recognized]] in 2018. The Donnelly Study defined incels as adults who fail to find a sexual partner for ''six months or more'' despite active efforts, though there is dispute whether that time frame is too short. Contrary to perceptions in the media and for the purposes of this wiki, incel is ''not'' a political movement, but a gender-neutral life circumstance.
'''Incel''' is a [[Donnelly Study#Incel is Now a Valid Academic Sociological Term|sociological term]] that is short for '''involuntary celibacy'''.<ref>journal|title=Involuntary Celibacy: A life course analysis|url=http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html|journal=The Journal of Sex Research|volume=38|pages=159–169|via=</ref><ref>encyclopedia|title=Celibacy|encyclopedia=The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Family Studies|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|date=February 29, 2016|editor-last=Shehan|editor-first=Constance L.|volume=1|page=238|isbn=9780470658451</ref><ref>Carpenter, Laura M. (2010). "Gendered Sexuality Over the Life Course: A Conceptual Framework". Sociological Perspectives. University of California Press. 53 (2): 155–178. doi:10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155. JSTOR 10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155</ref><ref>Harvey, John H.; Wenzel, Amy; Sprecher, Susan, eds. (2004). The Handbook of Sexuality in Close Relationships. Mahwah, New Jersey: Taylor & Francis. p. 900. ISBN 9781135624699. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>Strong, Bryan; Cohen, Theodore (2013). The Marriage and Family Experience: Intimate Relationships in a Changing Society. Belmont, California: Cengage Learning. p. 50. ISBN 1133597467. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>journal|A life course analysis|url=http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html|journal=The Journal of Sex Research|volume=38|pages=159–169|via=</ref><ref>encyclopedia|title=Celibacy|encyclopedia=The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Family Studies|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|date=February 29, 2016|editor-last=Shehan|editor-first=Constance L.|volume=1|page=238|isbn=9780470658451</ref><ref>Carpenter, Laura M. (2010). "Gendered Sexuality Over the Life Course: A Conceptual Framework". Sociological Perspectives. University of California Press. 53 (2): 155–178. doi:10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155. JSTOR 10.1525/sop.2010.53.2.155</ref><ref>Harvey, John H.; Wenzel, Amy; Sprecher, Susan, eds. (2004). The Handbook of Sexuality in Close Relationships. Mahwah, New Jersey: Taylor & Francis. p. 900. ISBN 9781135624699. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref><ref>Strong, Bryan; Cohen, Theodore (2013). The Marriage and Family Experience: Intimate Relationships in a Changing Society. Belmont, California: Cengage Learning. p. 50. ISBN 1133597467. Retrieved 2015-12-30.</ref> Involuntary celibacy is an [[Netherland Government's Model for Combatting Inceldom|internationally recognized medical disability]]<ref>https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/723323/Sexual-partner-fertility-disability-World-Health-Organisation-IVF</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170503151557/https://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/04/news/04iht-sex_.html</ref> and its unabbreviated form dates back [[Antoine Banier|at least]] to the 16th century. It was first used academically in the [[Donnelly Study]] in 2001 and first [[Ton den Boon|lexicographically recognized]] in 2018. The Donnelly Study defined incels as adults who fail to find a sexual partner for ''six months or more'' despite active efforts, though there is dispute whether that time frame is too short. Contrary to perceptions in the media and for the purposes of this wiki, incel is ''not'' a political movement or [[incel community|community]], but a gender-neutral life circumstance. The only shared belief of ''self-described'' incels is [[determinism|hard determinism]].
 
Inceldom overlaps but is distinct from '[[sexual frustration]]', in that an involuntary celibate may accept their ''in''celibacy and not feel bad about it.


No mass murderers have been users of incel forums. Neither [[4chan]] nor [[PUAhate]] have self-identified as incel forums, even though incels may frequent them. Current major incel internet forums are: [[incels.co]], [[Facebook's Incelistan]], [[Incelistan.net]], [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], [[Incelswithouthate]], and [[Foreveralone]]. Roughly [[demographics of inceldom#Numbers|15-30% of American men between the ages of 18-30 are incels]].
No mass murderers have been users of incel forums. Neither [[4chan]] nor [[PUAhate]] have self-identified as incel forums, even though incels may frequent them. Current major incel internet forums are: [[incels.co]], [[Facebook's Incelistan]], [[Incelistan.net]], [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], [[Incelswithouthate]], and [[Foreveralone]]. Roughly [[demographics of inceldom#Numbers|15-30% of American men between the ages of 18-30 are incels]].
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The state does not want people to reproduce who are unfit for raising children, yet it is amazingly ineffective at doing so, e.g. the most anti-social males have a disproportional amount of children.
The state does not want people to reproduce who are unfit for raising children, yet it is amazingly ineffective at doing so, e.g. the most anti-social males have a disproportional amount of children.
At the same time peaceful and motivated men have no chance, likely because women's standards have been spoiled by feminism and dating apps, and because men are not raised to assert dominance.
At the same time peaceful and motivated men have no chance, likely because women's standards have been spoiled by feminism and dating apps, and because men are not raised to assert dominance.
Male incels are often met by disgust of women. Men have a lot less sexual disgust,<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037/emo0000389</ref> so this likely occurs more rarely for female incels.


Life as an incel is particularly awkward whenever the topic of sex or relationships comes up. There is an overwhelming social expectation to be in a sexual relationship that is likely biological. Spending time with other males tends to be awkward because the lack of sexual activity otherwise may suggest that one is homosexual ([[homohysteria]]). People generally agree that one's sexual life is essential for feeling good about oneself and for one's social status and acceptance. Especially women find men who do not have sex less appealing.
Life as an incel is particularly awkward whenever the topic of sex or relationships comes up. There is an overwhelming social expectation to be in a sexual relationship that is likely biological. Spending time with other males tends to be awkward because the lack of sexual activity otherwise may suggest that one is homosexual ([[homohysteria]]). People generally agree that one's sexual life is essential for feeling good about oneself and for one's social status and acceptance. Especially women find men who do not have sex less appealing.
==Shared beliefs==
There are no shared beliefs among incels as a whole as incels are not a [[incel community|community]], movement, etc.  However, for '''self-described''' incels, the only shared belief is [[determinism|hard determinism]].
==Sexual frustration vs. inceldom==
Inceldom overlaps but is distinct from '[[sexual frustration]]', in that an involuntary celibate may accept their [[incelibacy]] and not feel bad about it.


==Can't an incel see a hooker?==
==Can't an incel see a hooker?==


Frequenting [[prostitutes]] or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money. Even if it did count as a sexual or romantic [[relationship]], most self-identified incels cannot afford it regularly. Also, many [[escortcel]]s frequently characterize prostitution as not a full sexual experience as it usually lacks sexual validation. Legalization of prostitution can mitigate the [[side effects of inceldom]], but it does not constitute a sexual relationship. Plus in most parts of the United States, prostitution is illegal.  And most people with incel problems do not want to break the law. However, more incels would see prostitutes if they were legal.
Frequenting [[prostitutes]] or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money.  
What makes things worse, most incels cannot afford it regularly and it is associated with various risks due to illegality and sexually transmittable diseases.
Also, many [[escortcel]]s frequently characterize prostitution as not a full sexual experience as it usually lacks sexual validation. It is not accompanied by the status elevating experience of being selected by someone for who ones is.
Legalization of prostitution can mitigate the [[side effects of inceldom]], but it does not constitute a sexual relationship. Plus in most parts of the United States, prostitution is illegal.  Most people with incel problems do not want to break the law. However, more incels would see prostitutes if they were legal.


Incels want genuine companionship.
Incels want genuine companionship.
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