Talk:Vox Day

Does the actual Vox Day's definition really match the one given here?

Consider https://incels.wiki/w/Vox_Day#Alpha.2C_Beta.2C_Delta.2C_Gamma.2C_Omega_and_Sigma Apart from the ethics claimed in the section (such as "dishonest", "to gain power", or basically any other <<intentional trait>>), contrary for having no love at all for Vox Day, I've never seen anybody giving such precise portrait of myself about my <<behavioural traits>> (frequent org disturbing, meltdowns when not allowed to escape conflicts, extremely abused in rare relationships, intense romanticist, historic of oneitism, basically everything).

Still I see that I score extremely low on his proposed test for "Are you a Gamma?" (http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2015/02/are-you-gamma-1-of-2.html), almost zero. His test can simply not lead to such conclusions.

So the question here is: is this section a brilliant work from the section's writer from extracting only what was virtuous about Day's work? Or maybe is it taken from another work? Or maybe is that even brilliant original research from the section's writer? What don't I get?

-- As I can't yet have an account, I let here the SHA256 of my desired username, with a possible salt: b83ba8dd324c83de3b0be38100c99f0e8918764d954a656aa1aee9660b77b550 -- Previously unsigned comment by 31.161.226.140

First of all, Day claims compulsive lying is 'the main defining trait of a gamma' (paraphrasing) and most religious/ethical systems that I'm aware of generally consider lying to be unethical (apart from in certain contexts, e.g., the doctrine of taqiyya in Islam). The 'Are you a Gamma test' listed on his blog seems to have been penned by a guest author ("The author of Graduating Gamma has composed a helpful list to permit Gamma males to identify themselves:"), and Day has since elaborated on and developed the gamma concept more. The blog post seems to focus on the characteristic dishonesty and lack of intellectual humility traits that Day ascribed to gammas, and not so much on the sexual hierarchy and female relationship aspects, which are the main focus of this wiki. I authored part of the section on gammas you are referring to, I can't speak for my co-author, but it seems to align quite well with Days taxonomy of 'gamma traits' as articulated in his posts on his Vox Populi blog and in the section on gamma males in his book SJWs Always Double Down (focusing on the alleged connection of gamma traits and male SJW behavior).

The cryptographic signature thing is unnecessary. All that is required to have an account on this wiki is to contact me on our discord server, linked on the main page under 'General Info, chatrooms.' Though I would strongly advise you to carefully read the wiki rules given your admitted tendencies towards "org disrupting," "meltdowns," and so forth. We have already had some issues with people coming to this wiki and disrupting the pre-established hierarchies.Altmark22 (talk)