Talk:MGTOW

I think there should be a page about MGTOW since they are just Incels Coping Their Own Way (ICTOW)

2601:5CD:C200:AA2:CD27:DE08:9018:DE3A 02:56, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Is MGTOW essentially a COPE?

In my native language, I have a good phrase to define them from an incel perspective: It neither stinks nor smells good. In incel communities, of course we have some convergence about who is incel or not, but this is not the same for topics like the own definition of cope. Did you realize how variable is the way we call something a cope? We push and pursue it in terms of gaming sometimes, or use it for condemn some line of thought other times. Because of that, we can all agree that there is a form of "implicit approach" that is underlying everything related and tends to subdivide this usage in "good" and "bad cope" (even though I never saw someone mention this meta-discussion before).

Therefore, I notice a similar ontological pattern while evaluating MGTOW. The topic difference can lies in the substitution of the object with individual, but the outcome can be the same: it depends on the subjective. I see a lot of cels portraying MGTOW as a coping in a very shallow way, however, they fail to realize that there is still a gain in the illusion of choice from not losing money and time stalking females without great expectation (you don't need to be successful with females, especially if you're a 40 years old divorced male), and it's an illusion not because of the nature of this philosophy, but because I don't believe in free will at all. Therefore, it's possible to portray every celibate as an incel by ontological assertion, but what matters here is their feellings through that condition, and not if they are really in control or deluded by the illusion of it. And this possible illusion is exactly why MGTOW is a good thing for the believers (and also why this can be portrayed as a Whitepill's analogy). It is because they just need to believe to be mentally adapted to it, especially if they aren't chads (keep in mind that not every MGTOW is celibate; commitment is the keyword). And if this allows some low SMV to be part of it, in other hand, that view also serves as counter-arguments for MGTOWs (or Whitepillers) who preach that everyone can be one of them.

In reality, what determines who we want to be is completely beyond the reach of most of us, so there's no point in trying to convince. In summary, if you was an incel and now thinks that not losing time trying to not be like one already counts for turning yourself a MGTOW, then take enjoy of it. ViniciosSoder (talk) 02:40, 03 March 2026 (UTC-3)