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A small male nose is an objective measurement of overall low not high testosterone development<ref>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10251097/</ref>, despite this girls view adolescent feminine male faces as "the most masculine" due to the [[Halo effect]], not because of objective facial masculinity as measured by the difference between genders in facial morphology. To men this makes little to no sense however makes perfect sense under [[female logic]] also known as XYZ theory, that certain masculine traits (X) combined with feminine (y) = cooler/more masculine etc. (z) than x or y alone, for example androgynous heartthrob singers/dancers Chris brown, Michael Jackson , and Prince. There is a stereotype among many cultures that handsome men are more likely to be gay/bisexual and there is truth to this, as adolescent males rated by University Students to be the most facially appealing are much much more likely to have gender identity disorder<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01552910</ref>. On all five adjectives (attractive, beautiful, cute, handsome, and pretty), boys with gender identity disorder were judged to be more facially appealing than were the clinical control boys. Also adolescent boys self reporting that they are highly physically attractive were five times more likely than other boys to have experienced child sexual abuse by males, they were also more likely to be robbed as well as assaulted by males<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004723521930354X</ref>. | A small male nose is an objective measurement of overall low not high testosterone development<ref>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10251097/</ref>, despite this girls view adolescent feminine male faces as "the most masculine" due to the [[Halo effect]], not because of objective facial masculinity as measured by the difference between genders in facial morphology. To men this makes little to no sense however makes perfect sense under [[female logic]] also known as XYZ theory, that certain masculine traits (X) combined with feminine (y) = cooler/more masculine etc. (z) than x or y alone, for example androgynous heartthrob singers/dancers Chris brown, Michael Jackson , and Prince. There is a stereotype among many cultures that handsome men are more likely to be gay/bisexual and there is truth to this, as adolescent males rated by University Students to be the most facially appealing are much much more likely to have gender identity disorder<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01552910</ref>. On all five adjectives (attractive, beautiful, cute, handsome, and pretty), boys with gender identity disorder were judged to be more facially appealing than were the clinical control boys. Also adolescent boys self reporting that they are highly physically attractive were five times more likely than other boys to have experienced child sexual abuse by males, they were also more likely to be robbed as well as assaulted by males<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004723521930354X</ref>. | ||
The low testosterone means pretty boys/ the average handsome man in general is naturally physically weaker than average as well. In any case the overall low testosterone levels of the average pretty boy/handsome man would also mean brain development is affected most likely in the direction of being "anti autistic" or "hyper neurotypical", and or more holistically feminine brained than normal. To sum up what typically makes a male face handsome it is clearly first and foremost and primarily being born as cute (feminine) a baby as humanly possible and retaining those youthful/feminine characteristics over a lifetime, secondarily handsomeness is about objective sexual dimorphic masculine features at puberty. This is why when using the tool Faceapp gender flipping male models most often produces a beautiful female. As for whether or not facial femininity on a man is an indicator of low or high [[mutational load]], its very clear at this point in the Incel Wiki Team's research that it is an indicator of high mutational load at the extremes due to the gender identity disorders and general [[homochad hypothesis|homochadery]]. In official studies general good looks is very weakly correlated with low mutational load | The low testosterone means pretty boys/ the average handsome man in general is naturally physically weaker than average as well. In any case the overall low testosterone levels of the average pretty boy/handsome man would also mean brain development is affected most likely in the direction of being "anti autistic" or "hyper neurotypical", and or more holistically feminine brained than normal. Indeed in both a Turkish and East Asian sample of men, those with higher 2d 4d ratios, meaning a longer pointer finger compared to ring finger which means more prenatal estrogen exposure in ratio to testosterone, ended up as adults, having less wide, less long, smaller more neotenous/babyish faces. In the Turkish sample specifically they also grew up to have a linearly smaller adult nose, longer eyelashes, and a linearly more positive canthal eye tilt, as well as linearly more feminized eyes in general essentially, creating an overall "angelic" appearance. Which is the polar opposite of the high prenatal testosterone low 2d 4d men<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378378220304540</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajhb.24155</ref>. | ||
And finally the most controversial finding, men with higher 2d 4d ratio again more prenatal estrogen exposure relative to testosterone are more likely to grow up and identify as homosexual "bottoms, meaning that they only receive during homosexual sex, and are exclusively homosexual<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-87338-0</ref>. Overall the evidence for the [[homochad hypothesis]] is extremely robust, and while surprising to most men, female readers most likely would not be, as Yaoi also known as boy love and other male on male romance fan fics are extremely popular among women. In fact on the anonymous photo rating site Photoeval.com women rated Kpop singer Jimin, whom is discussed through out this article as ridiculously attractive, nearly perfect scores under the context of him being a romantic, sensual, bisexual lover. Graphic sexual descriptions do dramatically bad and sensual descriptions are rated most attractive by women. It has been observed that men with lots of [[reproductive success]], "hyper reproducers" are never pretty boys, as in you wont find a pretty boy with 10+ kids. and in the Wisconsin Longitudinal Study attractive men had no more children than average looking men<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21151758</ref>. | |||
Anecdotally, women on average rate the most driven to achieve reproductive success of men as very facially unattractive sometimes insanely low physical evaluation scores especially over the men in questions lifetime as even the better looking hyper reproducers don't age gracefully, all due to the men in question's higher [[facial masculinity]]. Basically facial masculinity is inconsistent. A facially masculine man may be high ranked by one sample or demographic of women or bottom of the barrel to another, while facial feminity is entirely consistent as in a very feminine faced men will generally do well across all demographics of women especially when rated by women aged 40+<ref>https://imgur.com/a/BLSON1E</ref>. 40+ year old women linearly with age, rating facially feminine men as ideal is extremely disheartening to most husbands meaning that nearly all husbands wont be seen as facially attractive by their wives anymore by middle age if they ever were to begin with and even [[silverfox]]es would ideally have feminine facial traits for example the long eyelashes of a 20 year old. | |||
To sum up what typically makes a male face handsome it is clearly first and foremost and primarily being born as cute (feminine) a baby as humanly possible and retaining those youthful/feminine characteristics over a lifetime, secondarily handsomeness is about objective sexual dimorphic masculine features at puberty. This is why when using the tool Faceapp gender flipping male models most often produces a beautiful female. As for whether or not facial femininity on a man is an indicator of low or high [[mutational load]], its very clear at this point in the Incel Wiki Team's research that it is an indicator of high mutational load at the extremes due to the gender identity disorders and general [[homochad hypothesis|homochadery]]. In official studies general good looks is very weakly correlated with low mutational load but clearly that falls apart at the extremes most often, with high [[facial masculinity]] being a much better indicator of lowered mutational load even when the man in question is a masc faced ogre due to the greater fighting ability, physical fitness levels, and raw strength, much higher [[reproductive success]], and reproductive drive etc. | |||
Pretty Boys that are feminized more than the average pretty boy but by no means to the level of a cutecel- who is mainly just low facial masculinity (things like small chin and jaw, recessed facial bones) not necessarily high facial femininity, (full lips and lashes and pretty eyes ie. 2 different scales), are the main archetype of man women seek out on social media also by the widest of margins, especially on Tiktok and Facebook, with the defining features being longer eyelashes and plumper lips. [[Chad]]s and [[Gigachad]]s, while still very attractive and desirable to women, primarily have a male fanbase online. And finally, [[Silverfox]]es are most desired by women among the older crowd online. Women primarily view extremely high [[facial masculinity]] in its isolation as being indicative the man is very physically strong and that he can satisfy their B.D.S.M fantasies and not much else positive. | Pretty Boys that are feminized more than the average pretty boy but by no means to the level of a cutecel- who is mainly just low facial masculinity (things like small chin and jaw, recessed facial bones) not necessarily high facial femininity, (full lips and lashes and pretty eyes ie. 2 different scales), are the main archetype of man women seek out on social media also by the widest of margins, especially on Tiktok and Facebook, with the defining features being longer eyelashes and plumper lips. [[Chad]]s and [[Gigachad]]s, while still very attractive and desirable to women, primarily have a male fanbase online. And finally, [[Silverfox]]es are most desired by women among the older crowd online. Women primarily view extremely high [[facial masculinity]] in its isolation as being indicative the man is very physically strong and that he can satisfy their B.D.S.M fantasies and not much else positive. | ||
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A study on facial masculinity and femininity has shown the masculinity of the father's face is passed on to both their sons and daughters.<ref> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4205959/</ref> This may be beneficial to the male offspring (despite weak or non-existent relationships between male facial masculinity and their attractiveness as judges by women) though it seems to be generally detrimental to the men's female offspring, as higher levels of facial masculinity in women are generally associated with lower perceived facial attractiveness. | A study on facial masculinity and femininity has shown the masculinity of the father's face is passed on to both their sons and daughters.<ref> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4205959/</ref> This may be beneficial to the male offspring (despite weak or non-existent relationships between male facial masculinity and their attractiveness as judges by women) though it seems to be generally detrimental to the men's female offspring, as higher levels of facial masculinity in women are generally associated with lower perceived facial attractiveness. | ||
A study on the inheritance of parental facial attractiveness and their adult children's facial attractiveness, at the collegiate age, shows about 70% of daughter's facial attractiveness is inherited from the parent's genes with the father's genes playing a slightly larger role in the daughter's facial attractiveness compared to the mother's genes. With the rest of the variance being epigenetic in nature (diet regimens, stress, nutrition status, toxin exposure levels, pharmacological medications, grooming, etc.) In contrast, about 10% of son's facial attractiveness is inherited from the parent's genes with the mother's genes playing the majority role in the son's facial attractiveness compared to the father's genes, with the rest of the variance being epigenetic.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347208003928</ref> The Incel Wiki team created an edited photo of Supermodel Desmend Wyer which women on the popular rating site Photofeeler rated a statistically perfect 10/10 the first 10 votes, and remained a 10/10 up to 80 votes. The image is a 45-year-old looking Silver Fox, in the physical aesthetic shape of an extremely healthy and physically fit 25-year-old. Thus one explanation is that women find high levels of | A study on the inheritance of parental facial attractiveness and their adult children's facial attractiveness, at the collegiate age, shows about 70% of daughter's facial attractiveness is inherited from the parent's genes with the father's genes playing a slightly larger role in the daughter's facial attractiveness compared to the mother's genes. With the rest of the variance being epigenetic in nature (diet regimens, stress, nutrition status, toxin exposure levels, pharmacological medications, grooming, etc.) In contrast, about 10% of son's facial attractiveness is inherited from the parent's genes with the mother's genes playing the majority role in the son's facial attractiveness compared to the father's genes, with the rest of the variance being epigenetic.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347208003928</ref> The Incel Wiki team created an edited photo of Supermodel Desmend Wyer which women on the popular rating site Photofeeler rated a statistically perfect 10/10 the first 10 votes, and remained a 10/10 up to 80 votes. The image is a 45-year-old looking Silver Fox, in the physical aesthetic shape of an extremely healthy and physically fit 25-year-old<ref>https://imgur.com/a/UHFAG4p</ref>. Thus one explanation is that women find high levels of anti-aging hormones, as extremely attractive. Which could possibly explain why only 10% of men's facial attractiveness is heritable. It's possible 90% and 30% of men and women's inherited facial attractiveness, respectively, boils down to inherited anti aging hormone levels. Making anti aging hormone levels another X factor, asthey are not directly sexually selected for until around middle age and older. Anti aging hormones or not, it's clear from that experiment and our others that genes for retaining youthful characteristics in older age, in men, is extremely attractive to women. A follow up meta-analysis of attractiveness heritability, this time among twins, shows that the attractiveness level between identical, same sex, twin siblings when acne, grooming, smiling, and BMI are not controlled for is mostly genetic and when those factors are controlled for, the difference in attractiveness levels is still mostly genetic for identical twin brothers, but not identical twin sisters. The variance between the attractiveness levels of non-identical and/or non-same sex twins is found to be mostly epigenetic, when acne, grooming, smiling and BMI are not controlled for as well as when those factors are controlled for.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4096150/</ref> | ||
Facial masculinity and facial femininity are two separate scales. Low facial masculinity does not automatically mean high facial femininity. A person's face can be low in both facial masculinity as well as facial femininity; in other words, having an overall androgynous appearance. The facial masculinity of moms has no effect on the facial masculinity of offspring. | Facial masculinity and facial femininity are two separate scales. Low facial masculinity does not automatically mean high facial femininity. A person's face can be low in both facial masculinity as well as facial femininity; in other words, having an overall androgynous appearance. The facial masculinity of moms has no effect on the facial masculinity of offspring. | ||