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The studies on "seductive" nonverbal male behavior indicate that being able to perfectly control the pitch of your voice is an ability that objectively massively helps in getting a woman into bed<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/loi/vgen20</ref>, the typical most successful courtship is to actually pitch the voice up as a man to make the voice sound warmer and friendlier at first acquaintance, then gradually perfectly pitch it to baseline after becoming acquainted, and then lower the voice from baseline as the seducer becomes more intimate/moves to a private setting/as the conversation goes on. The official literature blatantly states that overwhelming majority of men are bad at the nonverbal "dance" of seduction<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/a:1022986608835</ref>. As it is very layered in that it involves physiologically syncing things like heart rate to the woman and complex improvisational body language as in there's no way to reliably min max body language cues as the seducers intentions become more obvious it becomes more and more clear to the woman and thus loses "mystery" "aura" "vibe" etc. Researchers through observation created outlines of typical courtship "scripts" that people near universally adhere too which typically follow three phases<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463373.2010.503161</ref>: | The studies on "seductive" nonverbal male behavior indicate that being able to perfectly control the pitch of your voice is an ability that objectively massively helps in getting a woman into bed<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/loi/vgen20</ref>, the typical most successful courtship is to actually pitch the voice up as a man to make the voice sound warmer and friendlier at first acquaintance, then gradually perfectly pitch it to baseline after becoming acquainted, and then lower the voice from baseline as the seducer becomes more intimate/moves to a private setting/as the conversation goes on. The official literature blatantly states that overwhelming majority of men are bad at the nonverbal "dance" of seduction<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/a:1022986608835</ref>. As it is very layered in that it involves physiologically syncing things like heart rate to the woman and complex improvisational body language as in there's no way to reliably min max body language cues as the seducers intentions become more obvious it becomes more and more clear to the woman and thus loses "mystery" "aura" "vibe" etc. Researchers through observation created outlines of typical courtship "scripts" that people near universally adhere too which typically follow three phases<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463373.2010.503161</ref>: | ||
first meeting/first date/ the interview stage in a public place, second meeting/second date/back to the | first meeting/first date/ the interview stage in a public place, second meeting/second date/back to the apartment/semi private or private place, and finally the literal bedroom. | ||
The first stage is about appearing, and presenting as most prosocial, maximizing trust basically like a typical job interview, except if things are going good your holding hands, so as to be "allowed" by the girl to enter stage 2, and is the one that's actually commonly min maxed with success, as men often orbit for months to "build rapport", taking pictures with their dog, smiling, and general social status maxing through normal well known social avenues, in the first stage of seduction/flirting men most commonly aren't even seen as sexual beings yet by women but women are seen that way by men. | The first stage is about appearing, and presenting as most prosocial, maximizing trust basically like a typical job interview, except if things are going good your holding hands, so as to be "allowed" by the girl to enter stage 2, and is the one that's actually commonly min maxed with success, as men often orbit for months to "build rapport", taking pictures with their dog, smiling, and general social status maxing through normal well known social avenues, in the first stage of seduction/flirting men most commonly aren't even seen as sexual beings yet by women but women are seen that way by men. | ||
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Phase 2 in the semi or private setting is most often when the man compliments the girl calling her beautiful, puts his arm around her and generally initiates more intimate physical contact, this is where things most often go awry and as the researchers say "unscripted"<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463373.2020.1787478</ref> events happen such as the girl saying "things are moving way too fast" although the researchers never go into why stuff like that happens, there can be many reasons, the man is abnormally seductive and they genuinely just met and its jarring to her, the girl genuinely likes to take things slow, the man isn't physically attractive enough for the girl to want to continue, the man is high trust but not high enough raw sex appeal etc. This is also where men get coercive with sayings like "I'll only put the tip in", "I won't cum inside", "it'll feel better with the condom off" etc. The 2nd stage is largely about not being physically rejected. | Phase 2 in the semi or private setting is most often when the man compliments the girl calling her beautiful, puts his arm around her and generally initiates more intimate physical contact, this is where things most often go awry and as the researchers say "unscripted"<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463373.2020.1787478</ref> events happen such as the girl saying "things are moving way too fast" although the researchers never go into why stuff like that happens, there can be many reasons, the man is abnormally seductive and they genuinely just met and its jarring to her, the girl genuinely likes to take things slow, the man isn't physically attractive enough for the girl to want to continue, the man is high trust but not high enough raw sex appeal etc. This is also where men get coercive with sayings like "I'll only put the tip in", "I won't cum inside", "it'll feel better with the condom off" etc. The 2nd stage is largely about not being physically rejected. | ||
Which is perhaps surprisingly easy to accomplish as researchers have showed women the most popular sexual dimorphism chart on the internet, who'd they have for a short term relationship like one night stand, and long term relationship, relative to the most dominant looking man, the most average looking man, and the most androgynous looking man, and for short term relationships and long term women chose the faces that were most similar to the average man just moderately thinner in the face, basically the facial difference from the average guy going from no abs to visible abs to 6 pack for long and short term respectively. Women did not choose the androgynous ((most friendly)) face for anything other than a friend and women did not choose the most dominant ((whom they voted the highest raw sex appeal)) face for any relationship in fact that face was labeled "enemy" by women suggesting ((probably falsely so)) that he would be some type of violent domestic abuser, and the girls weren't willing to even take the slightest chance on that<ref>https://imgur.com/a/zNbGeaX</ref>. In any case us at the Incel Wiki Team applied that dimorphism chart to many popular faces such as Chico Lachowksi, Pat Tillman, Atesh the Male Model, Blackopps2cel etc. using the latest AI image and video model "Sora" and to us it looks like it would probably get the same results using a different set of varying dimorphic faces if the official study was redone. The most dominant attractive faces ie.[[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]] not nearly being chosen as partners in real life by women as much as men think, despite high ratings especially on anonymous rating sites can be attributed to men [[halo effect]]ing [[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]], a | Which is perhaps surprisingly easy to accomplish as researchers have showed women the most popular sexual dimorphism chart on the internet, who'd they have for a short term relationship like one night stand, and long term relationship, relative to the most dominant looking man, the most average looking man, and the most androgynous looking man, and for short term relationships and long term women chose the faces that were most similar to the average man just moderately thinner in the face, basically the facial difference from the average guy going from no abs to visible abs to 6 pack for long and short term respectively. Women did not choose the androgynous ((most friendly)) face for anything other than a friend and women did not choose the most dominant ((whom they voted the highest raw sex appeal)) face for any relationship in fact that face was labeled "enemy" by women suggesting ((probably falsely so)) that he would be some type of violent domestic abuser, and the girls weren't willing to even take the slightest chance on that<ref>https://imgur.com/a/zNbGeaX</ref>. In any case us at the Incel Wiki Team applied that dimorphism chart to many popular faces such as Chico Lachowksi, Pat Tillman, Atesh the Male Model, Blackopps2cel etc. using the latest AI image and video model "Sora" and to us it looks like it would probably get the same results using a different set of varying dimorphic faces if the official study was redone. The most dominant attractive faces ie.[[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]] not nearly being chosen as partners in real life by women as much as men think, despite high ratings especially on anonymous rating sites can be attributed to men [[halo effect]]ing [[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]], a deeper introspective theory as to why Chad and Gigachad have a simultaneous [[halo effect]] and [[horn effect]] ie. A horned halo is that it has to do with [[female logic]] in that women did not choose the most masculine least feminine (x) and not the most feminine least masculine (y) but a mix of both x and y. In any case the results of that study indicate those 2 archetypes Chad and Gigachad will actually struggle at every phase of courting a woman where as a Pretty Boy would have to deal with getting called gay or friendzoned by women, so excel at phase 1 however struggle with phase 2 and 3. | ||
Phase 3 in the bedroom is simply holding the girl's hand or carrying her etc. to the bedroom and getting undressed, again the key here is to not get physically rejected. | Phase 3 in the bedroom is simply holding the girl's hand or carrying her etc. to the bedroom and getting undressed, again the key here is to not get physically rejected. | ||