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The original looks studies from 1997 were extremely flawed due to the researchers confusing femininity for beauty. Beauty is a stand-alone trait that has an overlap with femininity. Beauty is attractive in both sexes. Some facial features, such as full lips, are inherently beautiful and attractive to both men and women. Any facial morph where the more "masculine" face has thinner lips, is going to be rated as less attractive. When the feminine/beautiful traits are left alone, but the masculine traits exaggerated, the face is more attractive. Autistic people have an extremely hard time distinguishing femininity from beauty due to being bad with faces (Prosopagnosia, face-blindness). | The original looks studies from 1997 were extremely flawed due to the researchers confusing femininity for beauty. Beauty is a stand-alone trait that has an overlap with femininity. Beauty is attractive in both sexes. Some facial features, such as full lips, are inherently beautiful and attractive to both men and women. Any facial morph where the more "masculine" face has thinner lips, is going to be rated as less attractive. When the feminine/beautiful traits are left alone, but the masculine traits exaggerated, the face is more attractive. Autistic people have an extremely hard time distinguishing femininity from beauty due to being bad with faces (Prosopagnosia, face-blindness). | ||
In short, women couldn't care less if a dude looks like a chick as long as the guy has some super masculine features, such as a strong jaw, chin, hunter eyes, very large full eyebrows, etc. Although in one case | In short, women couldn't care less if a dude looks like a chick as long as the guy has some super masculine features, such as a strong jaw, chin, hunter eyes, very large full eyebrows, etc. Although in one case Jimin from the kpop boy band B.T.S. scored an 8/10 in raw sex appeal on [[Photofeeler]], on a screenshot from their Dynamite music video, at the climax of the video where he is covered in facially feminizing makeup and singing in a countertenor, Jimin has no masculine features whatsoever other than he happens to be male.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/WGXer8L</ref> 1 off cases like that suggest [[facial masculinity]] is more so a by product of increased testosterone, increased height and higher overall '''natural''' strength and athleticism, traits women are only weakly attracted to, rather than crucial for sex appeal and attractiveness, with the caveat being '''enhanced''' strength and athleticism, through lifting weights is very overall attractive to women especially by the time a man reaches his 40s and older, based on [[Photofeeler]] tests us at the incel wiki have run, on photos with the caption "rate raw sex appeal in place of attractiveness." With the results being that even [[Silverfox]]es such as Pierce Brosnan, lose all their raw sex appeal from facial attractiveness, as soon as they take their shirt off, if they are not extremely muscular. The results are so extreme its likely that nearly all women will be physically disgusted just sleeping in the same bed with a non muscular man by the time he reaches his 40s and older, meaning testosterone replacement therapy is crucial to not be seen as only a [[betabux]] as an aging man.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/le4zyLN</ref> | ||
Further testing on [[Photofeeler]] and a different rating site, Photoeval, with even raunchier, even more sexually forward captions, as well as subtle raunch shows, that even being '''slightly''', overtly sexually forward, causes the most handsome men in the world to lose the overwhelming vast majority of their sex appeal, although still above the perfectly average looking male, and with the raunchiest captions, only heightened muscle mass to the degree of steroid use causes ratings to still be relatively higher, with some facial aesthetics in play as in don't be hideously ugly. Women's insistence men put up an extremely prosocial, asexual front, and a study that showed the frequency and or quality of sex doesn't stop cheating nor does being deeply emotionally bonded lead to greater relationship stability <ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01639625.2024.2346823</ref>, indicates women want nearly all men to ideally frame sex in the most prosocial way possible, which realistically is framing sex in the context of starting a family, as a married [[betabux]] that behaves rather asexually after the kids are born. Their exception, allowing ridiculously muscular men to sexually assert themselves can be partially explained by [[reproductive success|evolutionary psychology]] as in hunter gatherer tribes, pure upper body strength is the number one factor in being a successful hunter. Still there are some holes in this as the Incel Wiki Team tested photos of men lifting cars and pulling planes in World's Strongest Man competitions and | Further testing on [[Photofeeler]] and a different rating site, Photoeval, with even raunchier, even more sexually forward captions, as well as subtle raunch shows, that even being '''slightly''', overtly sexually forward, causes the most handsome men in the world to lose the overwhelming vast majority of their sex appeal, although still above the perfectly average looking male, and with the raunchiest captions, only heightened muscle mass to the degree of steroid use causes ratings to still be relatively higher, with some facial aesthetics in play as in don't be hideously ugly. Women's insistence men put up an extremely prosocial, asexual front, and a study that showed the frequency and or quality of sex doesn't stop cheating nor does being deeply emotionally bonded lead to greater relationship stability <ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01639625.2024.2346823</ref>, indicates women want nearly all men to ideally frame sex in the most prosocial way possible, which realistically is framing sex in the context of starting a family, as a married [[betabux]] that behaves rather asexually after the kids are born. Their exception, allowing ridiculously muscular men to sexually assert themselves can be partially explained by [[reproductive success|evolutionary psychology]] as in hunter gatherer tribes, pure upper body strength is the number one factor in being a successful hunter. Still there are some holes in this as the Incel Wiki Team tested photos of men lifting cars and pulling planes in World's Strongest Man competitions and we originally found no attraction from women to feats of strength, suggesting the massive muscles they like are just aesthetically pleasing for the sake of being aesthetically pleasing, until we did further testing, creating 1 to 2 page long monologue bios to add context to the feats of strength and it boosted the athlete in womens eyes only when pulling a plane, and lifting a 600 pound barbell overhead but not lifting a car. This was the preliminary testing to adding "David Goggins" type motivational descriptions 1 to 2 or even 3 pages long to various photos to add even more context. and "Prosocial Motivational", the type of personality David Goggins, John Cena, Dwayne the Rock Johnson etc. have does the best out of a realistic personality a man could have, essentially a [[jock]] mentality. | ||
a large international study, involved over 10,000 participants from 43 countries and 22 languages. It aimed to examine how well people’s ideal partner preferences match with their actual partners. The study found that, "A good lover" is the number 1 highest ranked trait a woman prioritizes in a male, both men and women tended to underestimate how important attractiveness ((good looks)) is when they state their preferences.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382253515_A_Worldwide_Test_of_the_Predictive_Validity_of_Ideal_Partner_Preference-Matching</ref> | |||
Women voted Jimin from a screenshot of the Dynamite music video, as the best lover, from a panel of various looks and looks levels including conventional/classic handsomeness, by a wide margin on photoeval and its not virtue signaling since he scored high on photofeeler too and on every context we've tested he scores high. and facial femininity in general scored higher as a lover than facial masculinity but then roided levels of body masculinity does the best as a lover body wise and on other even raunchier sexually forward tests. | |||
So it looks like the ideal male in women's eyes would be a long haired ((could also be a high top fade or a bowl cut as long as its long)) pretty boy that could pass as a girl from the neck up and a bodybuilder body, but years ago we tested those photos and they didn't do amazing on photofeeler, so we moved on, as only 1 test for super long hair women left 0 complaints on, and then that same picture with a different context they complained, we know pretty boys are attractive to women because tiktok, kpop and in real life observation but that's not the same as a scientific test to determine if the appeal is niche or not, we also moved on because no big name attractive guy literally looks like a girl but after years of research we coined the Attractiveness-Based Complacency Bias": | |||
that attractive individuals become complacent and less driven to control the means of production due to their perceived attractiveness. basically the observation that handsome men are drastically underrepresented among people behind the scenes that control the means to earn money, the most attractive aspect of Net Worth and Pretty Boys take this bias to the utmost extreme as they have the least financial prospects due to them disproportionately coming from poor backgrounds, | |||
as the tiktok e boys come from about 30 thousand per year neighborhoods male models 40k actors 50k. the Pretty Boys lack "leadership facial physiognomy" as tested in the business section of photofeeler, so that explains scientifically some, not all of why their financial prospects are so poor and why they arent "leading men" in hollywood as in the guys more feminine looking than Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp etc. also long hair is considered unprofessional looking. And they may be disproportionately lower/average [[IQ]] since no notable pretty boy as in again prettier than Depp, Leo etc. actually looking like a girl has ever risen up from their adversity to do well in academics as a public figure. | |||
So ultimately since pretty boys are the extreme of the bias the pattern looks to be long haired, buff, girl faced, pretty boy the most directly seductive to women least financial prospects and bald, fat, masculine faced, multi billionaire the least directly seductive to women, greatest financial prospects and since chad/chadlite/gigachad have hype masculine "high competency, high leadership physiognomy faces" they are in the middle leaning toward pretty boy. Clearly women don't value high competency, leadership etc. from a purely sexual hedonistic orgasm point of view that much because classically handsome men lose nearly all of their "attractiveness" points under sexually aggressive/forward/raunchy circumstances, which makes it clear most women aren't actively thinking about sex or getting laid just monetary provision and non sexual traits primarily, however roided muscular men do well on the bdsm/rape tests etc. meaning body masculinity to women is primarily/only seen in a sexual light not indicative of being a masculine provider. | |||
This all sheds more light on the "Fabio Effect" the observation that some men are treated much much much better in real life explicitly for their looks than their ratings on photofeeler would suggest, named after Fabio because he's the worlds most successful male supermodel but his scores on feeler were outlierly high but no where near the top. pretty boys most likely to experience that, then theres the "anti fabio effect" getting treated way below your rating site looks level, which seems to happen to the sea of self identified incels or "fakecels" that blatantly look like classic male models. | |||
Considering "a good lover" is indeed the most prioritized trait in male as far as women are concerned, Men can google and use the Kunyaza sexual technique to give women an orgasm over 90% of the time within a few minutes.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1158136009001765</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunyaza</ref> Testing of the description of the Kunyaza technique on photeval shows very physically attractive women to be the most sexually receptive, the same findings on the [[reproductive success]] page part titled "The End of Hidden Ovulation". It's very clear that higher estrogen exposed women are most sexually receptive. Fat women have the most testosterone and estrogen, therefore the most sexually receptive women should be beautiful faced and "thick". Normally the Incel Wiki team would test the "thick" part to make 100% certain however for whatever reason the vast majority of photofeeler women are relatively thin. | |||
Romance novels often use long-haired, aesthetic, pretty boys with added rippling muscles as cover models to appeal to as many different women's preferences as possible. | Romance novels often use long-haired, aesthetic, pretty boys with added rippling muscles as cover models to appeal to as many different women's preferences as possible. | ||