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[[HeedandSucceed]] may be responsible for the usage of the term in [[incel forums]]. Although, the general defeatist sentiment with regards to inceldom can even be found in movies made prior to incel forums becoming well known, for example in [[Whatever - Extension du domaine de la lutte (movie)|''Extension du domaine de la lutte'']] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJjo3NmAEI this scene].
[[HeedandSucceed]] may be responsible for the usage of the term in [[incel forums]]. Although, the general defeatist sentiment with regards to inceldom can even be found in movies made prior to incel forums becoming well known, for example in [[Whatever - Extension du domaine de la lutte (movie)|''Extension du domaine de la lutte'']] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJjo3NmAEI this scene].


The expression is sometimes expressed as "IT'S OGRE". This version may be a reference to how Shrek was discriminated against once his real [[face]] was known in the film ''Shrek'',
The expression is sometimes expressed as "IT'S OGRE". This version may be a reference to how Shrek was discriminated against due to his ugly [[face]].


Another version which express the same feeling is "'''It never began'''" or "'''It never even began'''".
Another version which express the same feeling is "'''It never began'''" or "'''It never even began'''".

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