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To clarify this question, it is important to note if one is talking about incels as a life circumstance (as this Wiki defines it) or incels as a particular online subculture. Regarding sexually inactive men who do not explicitly identify as incels, a 2023 study (Selmner et al.) asserted that misogyny is driven by the “psychology of status-seeking and dominance-orientation, which correlates with having many, not few, sexual partners”. This study found that men who reported high promiscuous intentions were generally the least misogynistic. It was also found that a mismatch between these promiscuous intentions (desire) and actually attaining sexual success did not predict misogynistic attitudes. Interestingly, the metric for “misogynistic attitudes” in this study was derived from a list of [[Elliot Rodger|Elliot Rodger’s]] observations on the nature of women. It also focused on other questions that seem unrelated to misogyny per se, questions that seem to measure a certain pedestalization of women, reflecting Rodger’s belief that men's value is socially determined by their degree of success with women. The most misogynistic men were those who did not seem to really like or enjoy sex with women but reported being highly sexually active regardless, hinting that they see sexual interactions mainly as a way to display dominance in various forms.<ref>https://psyarxiv.com/wsvq8/</ref> | To clarify this question, it is important to note if one is talking about incels as a life circumstance (as this Wiki defines it) or incels as a particular online subculture. Regarding sexually inactive men who do not explicitly identify as incels, a 2023 study (Selmner et al.) asserted that misogyny is driven by the “psychology of status-seeking and dominance-orientation, which correlates with having many, not few, sexual partners”. This study found that men who reported high promiscuous intentions were generally the least misogynistic. It was also found that a mismatch between these promiscuous intentions (desire) and actually attaining sexual success did not predict misogynistic attitudes. Interestingly, the metric for “misogynistic attitudes” in this study was derived from a list of [[Elliot Rodger|Elliot Rodger’s]] observations on the nature of women. It also focused on other questions that seem unrelated to misogyny per se, questions that seem to measure a certain pedestalization of women, reflecting Rodger’s belief that men's value is socially determined by their degree of success with women. The most misogynistic men were those who did not seem to really like or enjoy sex with women but reported being highly sexually active regardless, hinting that they see sexual interactions mainly as a way to display dominance in various forms.<ref>https://psyarxiv.com/wsvq8/</ref> | ||
Men with high sexual success but low sexual desire were likely psychopathic, as psychopathy strongly predicted misogynistic attitudes, with a correlation coefficient of ''r'' = 0.712. This finding aligns with prior research showing that [[Dark triad|Dark Triad]] traits are generally linked to misogynistic and pro-rape attitudes,<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-02631-001</ref> likely without adversely affecting these men's mating success.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Dark_triad#Evidence_of_Dark_Triad_men_being_more_sexually_successful</ref> The least misogynistic group comprised men who reported both high desire for and levels of promiscuity. Additional evidence indicates that women frequently exaggerate men's levels of hostile sexism, especially in long-term relationships.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/02654075221118546</ref> Thus, it is unlikely that women can reliably detect such attitudes, as feminists and other women often argue. Most likely, many women are either indifferent to these misogynistic attitudes or, in some cases, actually attracted to them. It is also possible that women prefer men with benevolent sexist attitudes (chivalry), but accept hostile sexist attitudes anyway as they see the two as being inextricably linked | Men with high sexual success but low sexual desire were likely psychopathic, as psychopathy strongly predicted misogynistic attitudes, with a correlation coefficient of ''r'' = 0.712. This finding aligns with prior research showing that [[Dark triad|Dark Triad]] traits are generally linked to misogynistic and pro-rape attitudes,<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-02631-001</ref> likely without adversely affecting these men's mating success.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Dark_triad#Evidence_of_Dark_Triad_men_being_more_sexually_successful</ref> The least misogynistic group comprised men who reported both high desire for and levels of promiscuity. Additional evidence indicates that women frequently exaggerate men's levels of hostile sexism, especially in long-term relationships.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/02654075221118546</ref> Thus, it is unlikely that women can reliably detect such attitudes, as feminists and other women often argue. Most likely, many women are either indifferent to these misogynistic attitudes or, in some cases, actually attracted to them. It is also possible that women prefer men with benevolent sexist attitudes (chivalry), but accept hostile sexist attitudes anyway as they see the two as being inextricably linked, <ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-009-9665-x</ref> or believe they can “tame” such men's attitudes. | ||
Regardless, these findings collectively suggest that a man's expressed level of misogyny is unlikely to influence his status as involuntarily celibate. These collective findings challenge the notion that incel status reliably promotes misogynistic attitudes. Rather, the evidence suggests that misogyny may be more strongly correlated with, and predicted by, deep-rooted personality traits such as psychopathy and general antagonistic personality traits. | Regardless, these findings collectively suggest that a man's expressed level of misogyny is unlikely to influence his status as involuntarily celibate. These collective findings challenge the notion that incel status reliably promotes misogynistic attitudes. Rather, the evidence suggests that misogyny may be more strongly correlated with, and predicted by, deep-rooted personality traits such as psychopathy and general antagonistic personality traits. | ||