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In the most popular incel communities such as [[incels.co]], 56.1% of users were White, 8.2% were Black, 8.4 percent were "Latino", 5.4 % East Asian, 5% South Asian/"Indian", 8.2% Middle Eastern, and 8.8% 'other'.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Incel_forums_are_disproportionately_populated_by_suicidal.2C_disabled.2C_autistic.2C_and_ethnic_men</ref>
In the most popular incel communities such as [[incels.co]], 56.1% of users were White, 8.2% were Black, 8.4 percent were "Latino", 5.4 % East Asian, 5% South Asian/"Indian", 8.2% Middle Eastern, and 8.8% 'other'.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Incel_forums_are_disproportionately_populated_by_suicidal.2C_disabled.2C_autistic.2C_and_ethnic_men</ref>


==Self-identified incels==


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==Surveys of self-identified incels==
There has been a recent (as of 2022-2023) surge in research that examines the individual and demographic traits of incels that self-identify as such, who are selected for these studies via posting links to surveys on online spaces where these self-identified incel men congregate.
Of these studies, the most important ones are listed.
===[[William Costello|Costello]] study===
Costello (2022) found:<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-022-00336-x</ref>
* Incels reported substantially higher adverse mental health symptoms than the control group. Self-identified incels were much less satisfied with their lives, more depressed, more anxious, and more lonely than non-incel men. This elevated mental distress [[mentalcel|may be a cause]] or [[Adverse effects of inceldom|a result of inceldom]], or both.
* Incels were slightly higher on sociosexuality than the control group of men, notably the desire facet of sociosexuality (the only one examined in this study). Higher sociosexuality means Costello's cohort of incels reported having higher libidos and more sexual fantasies than control men. Costello controlled for age (the control sample was older, as incels seem to be overwhelmingly young men). It is not surprising as prior research has found that being in a romantic relationship is associated with lower sociosexual desire among men, and incels are de facto selected for higher sexual frustration. Statistical analysis revealed that incel's higher sociosexuality didn't seem to mediate their higher mental distress directly to any significant degree. This finding may support arguments that assert incels' problem 'isn't their lack of sex' per se, but rather the factors that cause this lack of sex (mental illness, low mating marker value, low status etc).
* There was no significant difference between the groups of men in self-described political affiliation.
* Incels were more likely to be "BIPOC" ([[ethnicel|non-White]]) than expected by chance, according to Costello.<ref>https://www.psypost.org/2022/09/incels-exhibit-reduced-psychological-well-being-and-a-greater-tendency-for-interpersonal-victimhood-study-finds-63979</ref> Though the demographics of the incel sample were fairly close to the demographics of the United States at White: 63.58% BIPOC: 36.42%, and Americans were a large portion of his sample, so this effect does not seem to be overly large. This figure also roughly corresponds with the surveys conducted by incel community leaders, such as the admins of incels.is and the now defunct Reddit r/braincels. It further debunks claims that self-identified incels are disproportionately White men.
* Incels scored moderately higher on the psychological instrument measuring "tendency for interpersonal victimhood" employed in the study. This means the incels surveyed had a more external locus of control (feeling of little ability to alter one's life circumstances), a lack of empathy towards other's struggles (a weak effect), "moral elitism" (a belief in the moral superiority of oneself or one's group over others, presumably incels over 'normies' in this case) and rumination (in this case nurturing negative feelings regarding slights on has experienced, which is also a symptom or cause of depression). This basically means these incels were more [[blackpilled]] than the non-incel men.
* More incels reported living with their parents compared to non-incel men, though the effect was rather small (keeping in mind most incels are young, and living with your parents to an advanced age is now normative in Western countries). Interestingly, 20 of the "incels" surveyed reported they were cohabiting with a romantic partner, so these were either [[fakecels]] or incels/trolls deliberately attempting to spoil Costello's data.
* Belief in the permanency of inceldom was weakly associated with greater depression and loneliness scores among the incel sample. Greater incel forum use was weakly associated with higher levels of anxiety,
* Incels were less educated than control men. While a similar portion attained higher education at the undergraduate level, the incels were more likely to be high-school dropouts than control men and less likely to have a post-graduate university education.
* Incels were more likely to be [[NEET|NEETs]] (Not in Education Employment or Training) than non-incel men, though this effect was very small, with incels only being slightly more like to be NEET than would be expected by chance. Costello placed a high emphasis on incels' lower socioeconomic status as a cause of their inceldom, linking this finding to predominate evolutionary psychological theories of innate female economic hypergamy and desire for financial investment from their male partners.


==Young incels in the U.S.==
==Young incels in the U.S.==
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Considering that, at the peak in 1985 only 15% did not date by 12th grade, one can assume that that at least 50% - 15% = 35% of the young would have dated if they could and hence could be considered [[youngcel]]s, however likely fewer actually suffer from their inceldom as historically it was not uncommon for people to only marry and start having sex in their mid-twenties with [[Boomers]] and Gen Xers having been outliers with regards how early they married (see also [[#Are_late_marriage_and_reproduction_unnatural.3F|this section]]).
Considering that, at the peak in 1985 only 15% did not date by 12th grade, one can assume that that at least 50% - 15% = 35% of the young would have dated if they could and hence could be considered [[youngcel]]s, however likely fewer actually suffer from their inceldom as historically it was not uncommon for people to only marry and start having sex in their mid-twenties with [[Boomers]] and Gen Xers having been outliers with regards how early they married (see also [[#Are_late_marriage_and_reproduction_unnatural.3F|this section]]).
==Adult incels in the U.S.==
==Adult incels in the U.S.==
===Rise in male sexlessness and singledom===
===Rise in male sexlessness and singledom===

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