True Forced Loneliness: Difference between revisions

Looking back, as a whole TFL is best thought of as the beginning of vlogging on Youtube in the [[English incelosphere]]. It centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends/fans and later [[Kent]]'s friends/fans, and their vlogging style. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an [[involuntary celibate]] or [[MGTOW]] vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger. The only differences between TFL and [[involuntary celibate]] communties are that many antecedent TFLers tend to be mostly unaware of the term "incel" or the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white. In contrast to self-identified TFLers, self-identified [[incel]] vloggers tend to have a higher proportion of whites.

 

*[[Oreo Man]], also known as SavvyGuy, active 2008-2017 (retired)

*[[William Greathouse]], active 2008-2018('''active''')

*[[Steve Hoca]] 2008-2018('''semi-active''')

*[[LFA]] 2018-2018('''active''')

*[[BigBossCalvin83]] ?-2018('''active''')

*[[Red Pill Rage|Red Pill Rage]] 2017-2018('''active''')

 

 

Back in 2008, TFL was a relatively anti-feminist. The three original TFLers were very often mocked – especially by forums, like Sherdog Off Topic forums (usually referred to OT).<ref>http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/l-o-l-fess-up-how-many-of-you-suffer-from-true-forced-loneliness.776808/</ref> The TFLers generally blamed society instead of the individual for their [[dating]] predicaments.

 

TFL is the early version of what would become the anti-feminist version of Incel. No ideas on [[incels.co]] are new—only the wording. Bill tended to be the more conspiracy theorist-related one. Dwayne tended to be the more "[[nice guy]]"-related one. Steve tended to dislike [[feminism|how women have more sexual choice than men]]. To combine the trio, you would get the victim-complex from Bill, the humanism of Dwayne, and the anti-feminism of Steve.

 

Other themes of TFL included sympathizing with [[George Sodini]], who was the 2009 Collier Township shooter<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting</ref>, shooting up a women's dance class because he couldn't get laid in 19 years or find a girlfriend in 25 years. George was an [[incel]] shooter who probably never heard of the word [[incel]] nor was there any evidence he used incel forums of watched TFL vlogs.