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A website called '''Incelsite.com''' was made in | A website called '''[[Incelsite.com]]''' was made in | ||
2004.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20040220054403/http://www.incelsite.com:80/</ref> Born from the community [[Alana]] abandoned around 2003. This is the forum that eventually was rebranded to '''IncelSupport''' in 2006.<ref>http://z15.invisionfree.com/IncelSupport/index.php?showtopic=1174</ref> | 2004.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20040220054403/http://www.incelsite.com:80/</ref> Born from the community [[Alana]] abandoned around 2003. This is the forum that eventually was rebranded to '''IncelSupport''' in 2006.<ref>http://z15.invisionfree.com/IncelSupport/index.php?showtopic=1174</ref> IncelSupport had at least 3 domains in it's lifetime: '''z15.invisionfree.com/IncelSupport/index.php''' in 2006, then '''s176620169.onlinehome.us:80/''' (incelsupport.org) in 2007, then '''incel.myonlineplace.org''' in 2008. On incel.myonlineplace.org lurkers used to outnumber actual posters. There was roughly an equal amount of men and women. Its members sometimes held meet-ups in the Washington, D.C. area.<ref>https://www.meetup.com/en-AU/CirclesEdge/events/7626415/</ref> | ||
The community was temporarily relocated to [[Yourenotalone.info]]<ref>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131218053443AArP4t6&guccounter=1</ref>, but the interim site didn't gain enough attraction | |||
==Bulletins== | ==Bulletins== | ||
The IncelSupport forum gave the following reasons for Involuntary Celibacy: | The IncelSupport forum gave the following reasons for Involuntary Celibacy: | ||
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*Low Self-Esteem | *Low Self-Esteem | ||
*Physical Illnesses | *Physical Illnesses | ||
*Primacy Incels (this means everything is okay in life except, for some reason, sex and relationships) | *Primacy Incels (this means everything is okay in life except, for some reason, sex and relationships) | ||
Incelsite had a forum and a few years later, we made our own standalone forum called IncelSupport in 2008<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20080225121026/http://Incel.myonlineplace.org:80/forum/</ref> | Incelsite had a forum and a few years later, we made our own standalone forum called IncelSupport in 2008<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20080225121026/http://Incel.myonlineplace.org:80/forum/</ref> | ||
Based on the research of [[Denise Donnelly|Dr. Donnelly]], they basically included anyone who would self- identify with being Incel and this meant that they'd include women, non-virgins, and even people | Based on the research of [[Denise Donnelly|Dr. Donnelly]], they basically included anyone who would self- identify with being Incel and this meant that they'd include women, non-virgins, and even people who had children but were in a sexless [[marriage]], etc. (Mentioning this to contrast to how many incels nowadays would reject these people as "[[normies]]"). | ||
==Feminist Mods== | ==Feminist Mods== | ||
Because IncelSupport was feminist and wouldn’t allow for misogyny, they would strictly moderate and consistently ban members who promoted it. One of the MOST notable things IncelSupport did was create "The Deadly Sins of Involuntary Celibacy". In retrospect, the unintended consequence of this was that banning misogynistic posters helped rid it from IncelSupport but it didn’t actually fix the misogyny from these posters. Many of these banned members would migrate to [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], which was a rival community. | Because IncelSupport was feminist and wouldn’t allow for misogyny, they would strictly moderate and consistently ban members who promoted it. One of the MOST notable things IncelSupport did was create "The Deadly Sins of Involuntary Celibacy". In retrospect, the unintended consequence of this was that banning misogynistic posters helped rid it from IncelSupport but it didn’t actually fix the misogyny from these posters. Many of these banned members would migrate to [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], which was a rival community. | ||
==Philosophical Differences with love-shy.com== | ==Philosophical Differences with love-shy.com== | ||
Over the course of almost a decade, the general trend of these two main Incel support communities was that one became more [[feminism|feminist]] while one became more [[MRA]]. According to posts on [[r9k]] from 2013<ref>https://archived.moe/r9k/thread/9223585#selection-4478.9-4478.11 [[http://archive.is/jW9yh#selection-4478.9-4478.11 Archive.is]]</ref>: | Over the course of almost a decade, the general trend of these two main Incel support communities was that one became more [[feminism|feminist]] while one became more [[MRA]]. According to posts on [[r9k]] from 2013<ref>https://archived.moe/r9k/thread/9223585#selection-4478.9-4478.11 [[http://archive.is/jW9yh#selection-4478.9-4478.11 Archive.is]]</ref>: | ||
*"There is incelsupport, which I used to post on, but it's heavily moderated and overly PC, so [[4chan]] types would hate it. There is the love-shy board - they basically seem like /r9k/ misogynists on steroids. That's about it, really." | |||
* | *"wizardchan - overmoderated, slow, autistic" | ||
* | *"incelsupport - overmoderated, slow, PC" | ||
* | *"loveshy - slow, makes /r9k/ look like tolerant women's libbers" | ||
* | *"All these places have their own ideologies though. The incelsupport board was kind of PC and wanted to ignore anything related to physical appearance or gender issues, whereas the love-shy board is essentially misogynist and bitter like /r9k/." | ||
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Ultimately, the forums became so ideologically split that – ironically – during this period, | Ultimately, the forums became so ideologically split that – ironically – during this period, | ||
LoveShy forum became more like what Incel is nowadays and focused on external forces and | LoveShy forum became more like what Incel is nowadays and focused on external forces and | ||
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"free speech vs hate speech", "supportive vs toxic threads", and the moderation (or lack | "free speech vs hate speech", "supportive vs toxic threads", and the moderation (or lack | ||
thereof).<ref>http://trueincel.blogspot.nl/ [[http://archive.is/oaFbm Archive.is]]</ref> | thereof).<ref>http://trueincel.blogspot.nl/ [[http://archive.is/oaFbm Archive.is]]</ref> | ||
==Site Crash== | ==Site Crash== | ||
In 2013, around the end, IncelSupport crashed. All the threads were lost. A temporary board was made but it wasn’t the same atmosphere. In 2014, interest was lost in the temporary board and efforts in fixing IncelSupport were eventually abandoned. The temporary board was abandoned too. Both forums are gone now and everything positive and supportive from the Incel community from the last 15 years is gone too. | |||
In 2013, around the end, IncelSupport crashed. All the threads were lost. | |||
==IncelSupport's '7 deadly sins'== | ==IncelSupport's '7 deadly sins'== | ||
1. Apathy. | 1. Apathy. | ||
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7. Shame. | 7. Shame. | ||
==See Also== | ==See Also== | ||
*[[Alana]] | *[[Alana]] | ||
*[[Reformed Incel]] | *[[Reformed Incel]] | ||
*[[Rebecca]] | *[[Rebecca]] | ||
==References == | |||
==References== | |||
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{{Defunct Incel Forums}} | {{Defunct Incel Forums}} | ||
[[Category:Incelosphere]] | [[Category:Incelosphere]] | ||