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Redpillers and blackpillers share some core beliefs, most notably the belief in inherent female [[hypergamy]] (defined as their desire to 'date up') and a generally cynical view of human and especially female nature that sees most social relationships as essentially being transactional in nature.
Redpillers and blackpillers share some core beliefs, most notably the belief in inherent female [[hypergamy]] (defined as their desire to 'date up') and a generally cynical view of human and especially female nature that sees most social relationships as essentially being transactional in nature.


They differ in several important ways, however, mostly because redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and self-improvement strategies such as [[bodybuilding]]. As such, Redpillers advise that men adopt an internal {{W|locus of control}}, or self-responsibility for one's dating success. However, some blackpillers do advise forms of self-improvement such as [[looksmaxxing]], so this distinction is not always as severe as it seems on the surface. The main difference here may be that blackpillers generally don't blame incels actions and attitudes for their lack of sexual success, whereas redpillers are often aggressively [[neoliberal]] in the sense of promoting 'bootstraps' and tough-love rhetoric to disadvantaged men. Redpillers typically seek to portray the blackpill as a 'loser mentality' that will repulse women, while blackpillers often see or portray redpillers as self-aggrandizing failures who exaggerate their sexual success for grifting purposes. Some prominent redpillers, such as [[Rollo Tomassi]], however, do recognize the similarities between the two 'pills' and just see blackpillers as defeatist redpillers.
They differ in several important ways, however, mostly because redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and self-improvement strategies such as [[bodybuilding]]. As such, Redpillers advise that men adopt an internal {{W|locus of control}}, or self-responsibility for one's dating success. However, some blackpillers do advise forms of self-improvement such as [[looksmaxxing]], so this distinction is not always as severe as it seems on the surface. The main difference here may be that blackpillers generally don't blame incels actions and attitudes for their lack of sexual success, whereas redpillers are often aggressively [[neoliberal]] in the sense of promoting 'bootstraps' and tough-love rhetoric to disadvantaged men. Redpillers typically seek to portray the blackpill as a 'loser mentality' that will repulse women, while blackpillers often see or portray redpillers as self-aggrandizing failures who exaggerate their sexual success for grifting purposes. Some prominent redpillers, such as [[Rollo Tomassi]], however, do recognize the similarities between the two 'pills' and see blackpillers as simply representing defeatist redpillers.


The blackpill is also generally more biologically determinist than the redpill, and argues against social constructionists who claim humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through either evolutionary time, or [[eugenics]], or efforts to '[[Cheating your genetics|cheat one's genetics]]' such as [[plastic surgery]]).
The blackpill is also generally more biologically determinist than the redpill, and argues against social constructionists who claim humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through either evolutionary time, or [[eugenics]], or efforts to '[[Cheating your genetics|cheat one's genetics]]' such as [[plastic surgery]]).

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