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==Criticism of such communities== | ==Criticism of such communities== | ||
=== | ===Claims the Blackpill is cultish=== | ||
Blackpill memes on Reddit were largely shared for shitposting and venting,<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=braincels%20vent%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=&searchtype=comments&search=true&start=0&end=1582986983&size=1000</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelExit/comments/dqddyw/what_does_exit_mean_in_this_sub/f62negc/</ref> This is similar to the nihilistic shitposting culture that is common on other internet forums, such as 4chan, which influenced the blackpill greatly. Cultish elements may have developed due to some members taking the shitposting very seriously. | Blackpill memes on Reddit were largely shared for shitposting and venting,<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=braincels%20vent%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=&searchtype=comments&search=true&start=0&end=1582986983&size=1000</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelExit/comments/dqddyw/what_does_exit_mean_in_this_sub/f62negc/</ref> This is similar to the nihilistic shitposting culture that is common on other internet forums, such as 4chan, which influenced the blackpill greatly. Cultish elements may have developed due to some members taking the shitposting very seriously. | ||
Still, explicit incel forums like [[incels.co]] and the like have been portrayed as being more extreme and cultish compared to Reddit, e.g. with members explicitly luring in newcomers under the slogan to "learn about the blackpill" and "[[LDAR|lay down and rot]]".<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/File:Bbb.png</ref> | Still, explicit incel forums like [[incels.co]] and the like have been portrayed as being more extreme and cultish compared to Reddit, e.g. with members explicitly luring in newcomers under the slogan to "learn about the blackpill" and "[[LDAR|lay down and rot]]".<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/File:Bbb.png</ref> | ||
===Blackpill proselytism=== | ===Blackpill proselytism and activism=== | ||
Some of the most dedicated members in blackpilled forums actively seek to "spread the blackpill", which often involves using studies, online dating experiments and other forms of evidence to "swallow" the blackpill narrative, generally surrounding looks being important for man's dating success/or men's dating success being largely immutable in general. Some have likened this to cultish behavior. | Some of the most dedicated members in blackpilled forums actively seek to "spread the blackpill", which often involves using studies, online dating experiments and other forms of evidence to "swallow" the blackpill narrative, generally surrounding looks being important for man's dating success/or men's dating success being largely immutable in general. Some have likened this to cultish behavior. | ||
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On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders who promote the blackpill in such an organized way. The argument that blackpilled incels are an organized group that advocates extremist solutions to social issues has caught hold in academia, where it is commonly argued that 'incels' constitute some sort of extremist movement.<ref>https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/cseun/</ref> | On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders who promote the blackpill in such an organized way. The argument that blackpilled incels are an organized group that advocates extremist solutions to social issues has caught hold in academia, where it is commonly argued that 'incels' constitute some sort of extremist movement.<ref>https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/cseun/</ref> | ||
===Claimed | ===Claimed far-right links=== | ||
The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in [[biological essentialism]]. The first modern redpill/blackpill influenced incel boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", who allowed the promotion of violence on his forums, i.e. [[Caamib]]. He, however, rejected certain core ideas of the blackpill, namely lookism. His focus was on feminism as the sole cause of involuntarily celibacy. Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion, and so Braincels was populated next. Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by an anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or [[alt-right]]. [[Braincels]] actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, and they were largely hostile to the racialist aspects of the alt-right.<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref> | The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in [[biological essentialism]]. The first modern redpill/blackpill influenced incel boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", who allowed the promotion of violence on his forums, i.e. [[Caamib]]. He, however, rejected certain core ideas of the blackpill, namely lookism. His focus was on feminism as the sole cause of involuntarily celibacy. Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion, and so Braincels was populated next. Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by an anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or [[alt-right]]. [[Braincels]] actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, and they were largely hostile to the racialist aspects of the alt-right.<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref> | ||