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==Themes== | ==Themes== | ||
Typical themes, [[memes]] and shitposts in blackpill communities | Typical themes, [[memes]] and shitposts in blackpill communities overlap with the [[redpill]], and include the following. Not all blackpillers agree with all of these positions referenced here, they are collected for reasons of completeness: | ||
'''Nature arguments''' | '''Nature arguments''' | ||
*Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]]) | *Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]]) in a free mating market, post-sexual revolution | ||
* | *SMV is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as [[LMS|looks, money, status]], [[heightpill|physical stature]], race, [[IQ]], and [[neurotypical]]ity. It is argued that women don't care about a man's personality, which is often conflated with morality. Some argue that only looks matter. Some say stuff like 'confidence' etc. matters a little but much less than readily observable material factors. SMV is argued to be the same as dating success, and it is commonly argued that direct female mate choice is primary in determining a man's sexual success, and not other external factors, apart from rare circumstances | ||
* | *Cosmetic surgery can drastically improve men's mating success | ||
*That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis) and that this applies today; therefore incels have 'bad genes' | |||
*That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis) | |||
*Women like big [[penises]] | *Women like big [[penises]] | ||
*[[Rape|Forced sex]] is [[steeling effect|not so bad]] and [[Rape#Evolution|many women like it]] | *Women care greatly about a male partner's height | ||
*[[Rape|Forced sex]] is [[steeling effect|not so bad]] and [[Rape#Evolution|many women like it]], at least if the rapist is an attractive man | |||
'''Women bad''' | '''Women bad''' | ||
*Women are only capable of | *Women are only capable of love in case of [[dominance hierarchy|high status]] men. Basically that women can only love conditionally, which most wouldn't consider 'love' | ||
*Women reject [[hypergamy|80%]] of the male population | *Women reject [[hypergamy|80%]] of the male population, or would if they could perfectly optimize their mate choices | ||
*Women will reject a man because he is a virgin | *Women will reject a man because he is a virgin, unless they is very attractive | ||
*Women mostly have a horrible [[personality|character]], if any | *Women mostly have a horrible [[personality|character]], if any | ||
*Women take joy in bullying at least as much as men | *Women take joy in bullying at least as much as men | ||
*Women only love men's what men can provide for them, financially or sexually | |||
*Women only love men's | *Women's [[fake depression|depression]] and loneliness are at best self-inflicted, at worst a means of getting attention. It is generally argued that women suffer less than men, as they live life on [[tutorial island|'easy mode']] | ||
*Women's [[fake depression|depression]] and loneliness are at best self-inflicted, at worst a means of getting attention | |||
*Women love playing victims to get their way | *Women love playing victims to get their way | ||
*Women are [[female sneakiness|sneaky]] and lie a lot | *Women are [[female sneakiness|sneaky]] and lie a lot | ||
*Women behave like [[neoteny|children]] | *Women behave like [[neoteny|children]] | ||
*Women exhibit a [[dual mating]] strategy | *Women exhibit a [[dual mating]] strategy, where men who financially provide for them are often cuckolded by more masculine or attractive men | ||
*Women have a passive, transactional and opportunistic love style | *Women have a passive, transactional and opportunistic love style | ||
*Women are [[female solipsism|solipsistic]] | *Women are [[female solipsism|solipsistic]] | ||
*Women are shallow about the [[looks]] of men and | *Women are particularly shallow about the [[looks]] of men, and care as much, or more about looks in a romantic partner than men do | ||
*Women's sexuality is stuck | *Women's sexuality is more primitive than men, but they conceal this to receive investment from male partners. Some argue that they are stuck [[Life history|r-selected]] past as they have been subject to [[reproductive success|less]] selection pressure | ||
'''Society''' | '''Society''' | ||
*Men need sexual intimacy and [[romance|romantic]] intimacy | *Men need sexual intimacy and [[romance|romantic]] intimacy | ||
*[[Adverse effects of inceldom|Inceldom is harmful]] | *[[Adverse effects of inceldom|Inceldom is harmful]] | ||
* | * Making women non-financially dependent on men for survival reduces them to their looks | ||
*[[Polygamy]] in general is bad and always unworkable on a community level | *[[Polygamy]] in general is bad and always unworkable on a community level, as it creates incel men who are excluded from reproduction and sexuality | ||
*Eliminating traditional gender roles | *Eliminating traditional gender roles destabilizes society through creating demotivated male incels | ||
*The [[patriarchy]] would solve or mitigate inceldom | *The [[patriarchy]] would solve or mitigate inceldom to a substantial degree | ||
*Wife sharing | *Wife sharing and other forms of extreme promiscuity are pathetic and necessarily chaotic | ||
*Religions were right about women | *Religions were right about women | ||
*Rich men are often merely [[betabux|betabuxed]] | *Rich men are often merely [[betabux|betabuxed]] | ||
*Women are compatible with | *Women are compatible with forced marriage as they naturally fantasize about [[rape|sexual coercion]] | ||
*[[Rape|Sexual coercion]] is a natural part of human sexuality | *[[Rape|Sexual coercion]] is a natural part of human sexuality | ||
*Revoking women's right to vote would be good | *Revoking women's right to vote would be good | ||
Many of these themes can be found in incel vocabulary and memes. Looks and status being necessary for men, but unevenly distributed, gives rise to beta and alpha males, [[Virgin]] vs [[Chad]]. Chad represents women's tendency to date up (hypergamy) and to prefer dominant men. The higher sex drive and more active love style in men give rise to [[Orbiting|beta orbiting]]. For women, [[Becky]] vs [[Stacy]] represent women's intra-sexual competition in looks. | Many of these themes can be found in incel vocabulary and memes. Looks and status being necessary for men, but unevenly distributed, gives rise to beta and alpha males, [[Virgin]] vs [[Chad]]. Chad represents women's tendency to date up (hypergamy) and to prefer dominant men. The higher sex drive and more active love style in men give rise to [[Orbiting|beta orbiting]]. For women, [[Becky]] vs [[Stacy]] represent women's intra-sexual competition in looks. | ||
Blackpills often means that "[[it's over]]" for incels with poor looks and low [[social status]] or other flaws—that is, that they have next to no chance of '[[ascension|ascending]]' or attaining sexual and social fulfilment. The blackpill gave rise to various spin-offs with varying degrees of seriousness, for instance, the '[[dogpill]]' or '[[birdpill]]'. | Blackpills often means that "[[it's over]]" for incels with poor looks and low [[social status]] or other flaws—that is, that they have next to no chance of '[[ascension|ascending]]' or attaining sexual and social fulfilment. The blackpill gave rise to various spin-offs with varying degrees of seriousness, for instance, the '[[dogpill]]' or '[[birdpill]]'. | ||
==Blackpill vs redpill== | ==Blackpill vs redpill== | ||
The blackpill is a reaction against other manosphere philosophy, the [[redpill]]. Redpillers and blackpillers share some beliefs, but redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and [[bodybuilding]] (internal {{W|locus of control}}). The blackpill is also a reaction against [[social justice]] movements, which claim that society can determine human desire, and humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through either evolutionary time, or [[eugenics]], or efforts to '[[Cheating your genetics|cheat]]' such as [[plastic surgery]]). | The blackpill is a reaction against other manosphere philosophy, the [[redpill]]. Redpillers and blackpillers share some beliefs, but redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and [[bodybuilding]] (internal {{W|locus of control}}). The blackpill is also a reaction against [[social justice]] movements, which claim that society can determine human desire, and humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through either evolutionary time, or [[eugenics]], or efforts to '[[Cheating your genetics|cheat]]' such as [[plastic surgery]]). | ||