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Traditionalist blackpillers push for a return to [[traditionalism|traditions]], [[sexual sublimation]], [[monogamy]] and the [[Scientific Blackpill (Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men|'natural subordination']] of women. This is seen in accordance with the [[greatest happiness principle]] as even women themselves are thought to be currently unhappy,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Self-rated_female_happiness_has_been_declining_since_the_1970s_in_the_US</ref> and desire being subordinated and manned around.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#62.25_of_women_have_fantasies_about_rape_and_other_forced_sex_acts</ref>
Traditionalist blackpillers push for a return to [[traditionalism|traditions]], [[sexual sublimation]], [[monogamy]] and the [[Scientific Blackpill (Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men|'natural subordination']] of women. This is seen in accordance with the [[greatest happiness principle]] as even women themselves are thought to be currently unhappy,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Self-rated_female_happiness_has_been_declining_since_the_1970s_in_the_US</ref> and desire being subordinated and manned around.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#62.25_of_women_have_fantasies_about_rape_and_other_forced_sex_acts</ref>
The social conservatism and focus on [[sexual sublimation]] reminds of the philosophy of 20th century English ethnologist [[J. D. Unwin]]. Most traditionalist blackpillers are atheist, but some promote cultural Christianity or other religions.
The social conservatism and focus on [[sexual sublimation]] reminds of the philosophy of 20th century English ethnologist [[J. D. Unwin]]. Most traditionalist blackpillers are atheist, leading one to suspect the validity of their attachment to 'tradition,  but some promote 'cultural Christianity' or other religions.
Non-traditionalist blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]].
Non-traditionalist blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]].


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