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When men have something [[women]] have less of, such as money or power, women simply take it by force. It's called [[affirmative action]] and [[feminism|feminists]] believe it's right. What women have that men don't, is of course [[sex drive|sex]].
When men have something [[women]] have less of, such as money or power, women simply take it by force. It's called [[affirmative action]] and [[feminism|feminists]] believe it's right. What women have that men don't, is of course [[sex drive|sex]].
==Feminist lies about rape==
==Feminist lies about rape==
[[File:Healthrisks.jpg|thumb|right|<center>BDSM is basically the sexual equivalent of junk food for women</center>‎]]
[[File:Healthrisks.jpg|thumb|right|<center>BDSM is basically the sexual equivalent of junk food for women</center>‎]]
=== Concept creep ===
=== Concept creep ===
Over time, the definition of "rape" has been expanded beyond its original meaning of "forcible sex".<ref>https://www.npr.org/2014/02/23/281731761/with-expanded-definition-rape-is-reported-more-often</ref> Increasingly gender equality in a nation seems to correlate with increased reports of rape due to the definition of "rape" expanding to become more inclusive of various kinds of sexual coercion.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0306624X20952399</ref>  
Over time, the definition of "rape" has been expanded beyond its original meaning of "forcible sex".<ref>https://www.npr.org/2014/02/23/281731761/with-expanded-definition-rape-is-reported-more-often</ref> Increasingly gender equality in a nation seems to correlate with increased reports of rape due to the definition of "rape" expanding to become more inclusive of various kinds of sexual coercion.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0306624X20952399</ref>
 
Not rarely, a sexual encounter with an ugly male will later be declared as rape because of [[metoo|day-after-feels]]. This may also be a [[female sneakiness|convenient strategy]] for females when their acts of infidelity are exposed. If they can convince the police to classify their infidelity as a "rape", then it is far easier to receive money of the legal system and sympathy. This way, a loophole was created that is bound to be exploited by [[borderline personality disorder|psychopathic women]]. Further, it may allow women to evade [[slut]]shaming by other females by denying the responsibility for their causal sexual activity.


A study suggested women perceive harassment from physically unattractive males as more frightening and harassment from attractive men more enjoyable, which may suggest women use similar criteria to decide what counts a rape.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women.27s_definition_of_.27harassment.27_in_online_dating_depends_on_the_attractiveness_of_the_man</ref>
Not rarely, a sexual encounter with an ugly male will later be declared as rape because of [[metoo|day-after-feels]]. This may also be a [[female sneakiness|convenient strategy]] for females when their acts of infidelity are exposed. If they can convince the police to classify their infidelity as a "rape", then it is far easier to receive money of the legal system and sympathy. This way, a loophole was created that is bound to be exploited by [[borderline personality disorder|psychopathic women]]. Further, it may allow women to evade [[slut]]shaming by other females by denying the responsibility for their causal sexual activity. A study suggested women perceive harassment from physically unattractive males as more frightening and harassment from attractive men more enjoyable, which may suggest women use similar criteria to decide what counts a rape.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women.27s_definition_of_.27harassment.27_in_online_dating_depends_on_the_attractiveness_of_the_man</ref> Females who have strong resistance against coercion can lead her to having more sexual choice.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1111/jeb.13436</ref> Females who believes that they are of "high value" consistently tolerate sexual coercion, whereas "high value" males in egalitarian environment, and "low value" males in patriarchal environments, would tolerate sexual coercion.<ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2018.00028/full</ref>


The invention of camera phones has brought the inception of self-pornographization, which has resulted in kids getting arrested for inappropriate pics of themselves while underage, thus necessitating the term "self-rape" (unironically).<ref>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/no-jack-city/</ref>
The invention of camera phones has brought the inception of self-pornographization, which has resulted in kids getting arrested for inappropriate pics of themselves while underage, thus necessitating the term "self-rape" (unironically).<ref>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/no-jack-city/</ref>


Some feminists even call [[sexual harassment]] a form of rape and sexual violence.
Some feminists even call [[sexual harassment]] a form of rape and sexual violence. TBD
 
It has gotten to a point that, in order to specify the traditional sense of the term rape as "violently coerced sex", it is no longer sufficient to use the term ''rape'', but one needs to call it "rape-rape".


It has gotten to a point that, in order to specify the traditional sense of the term rape as "violently coerced sex", it is no longer sufficient to use the term ''rape'', but one needs to call it "rape-rape". TBD
=== "Women never lie about being raped" ===
=== "Women never lie about being raped" ===
Since it is not possible to objectively examine an emotional response, it follows that most rape cases are now prosecuted on spectral evidence, relying ''solely'' on the accusations of the alleged victim, but women are [[female sneakiness|truthful]] after all, so one should always "believe women".


Since it is not possible to objectively examine an emotional response, it follows that most rape cases are now prosecuted on spectral evidence, relying ''solely'' on the accusations of the alleged victim, but women are [[female sneakiness|truthful]] after all, so one should always "believe women".
There are also laws being passed in many [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] societies (e.g. in France) that prohibit cross-examination of the victim in such cases, so the defendant is severely hamstrung in his defense.
There are also laws being passed in many [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] societies (e.g. in France) that prohibit cross-examination of the victim in such cases, so the defendant is severely hamstrung in his defense.


In regards to academic research on the prevalence of false accusations, O'Donahue (2019), conducted a careful review of the literature on the topic and concluded that 2–41% of accusations may be false, thus he called for more research into the topic, stating that much of the current research suffered from clear methodical flaws.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030236441|O'Donahue (2019), Handbook of Sexual Assault and Sexual Assault Prevention, Chapter 32, Understanding False Allegations of Sexual Assault, pp 537-549</ref>
In regards to academic research on the prevalence of false accusations, O'Donahue (2019), conducted a careful review of the literature on the topic and concluded that 2–41% of accusations may be false, thus he called for more research into the topic, stating that much of the current research suffered from clear methodical flaws.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030236441|O'Donahue (2019), Handbook of Sexual Assault and Sexual Assault Prevention, Chapter 32, Understanding False Allegations of Sexual Assault, pp 537-549</ref>
In 1994, Eugene J. Kanin of Purdue University researched into false rape allegations and found a prevalence of up to 80-90%, however, Kanin's methodology was questioned by various authors.<ref name="allegations">https://endvawnow.org/uploads/browser/files/Successfully%20Investigating%20Acquaintance%20Sexual%20Assault%20-%20A%20Natl%20Training%20Manl%20Law%20Enforcmt.pdf</ref>
In 1994, Eugene J. Kanin of Purdue University researched into false rape allegations and found a prevalence of up to 80-90%, however, Kanin's methodology was questioned by various authors.<ref name="allegations">https://endvawnow.org/uploads/browser/files/Successfully%20Investigating%20Acquaintance%20Sexual%20Assault%20-%20A%20Natl%20Training%20Manl%20Law%20Enforcmt.pdf</ref>
A midwestern police agency reported a rate of 41% and two college campuses a rate of 50%.<ref name="allegations"></ref>
A midwestern police agency reported a rate of 41% and two college campuses a rate of 50%.<ref name="allegations"></ref>
Detectives from the Denver  Metropolitan  Area  Police  Department provided estimates ranging from 5% to 65%.<ref name="allegations"></ref>
In an informal survey conducted at a conference  including criminal justice personnel, the estimates varied widely from 0% to 98%.<ref name="allegations"></ref> The high variation in these reports is indicative of a strong politicization and disagreement about what constitutes rape in the first place.
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=== "Rape is a patriarchal construct" ===
Detectives from the Denver Metropolitan Area Police Department provided estimates ranging from 5% to 65%.<ref name="allegations"></ref>


It is a common feminist assertion that rape is merely a [[social constructionism|social construct]] about asserting power and dominance over women, echoing Oscar Wilde ("everything is about sex; but sex is about power") and Susan Brownmiller's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/Against_Our_Will Against Our Will], however there is strong evidence that rape is sexually motivated, either to demonstrate the female to be able to overpower her (which she herself [[Female_subordination_and _submission|often desires]]), or as a low-investment sexual strategy as discussed below.
In an informal survey conducted at a conference including criminal justice personnel, the estimates varied widely from 0% to 98%.<ref name="allegations"></ref> The high variation in these reports is indicative of a strong politicization and disagreement about what constitutes rape in the first place.
One counterargument is also the fact that most rape victims are young, fertile women.<ref>https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2017001/article/54866-eng.htm</ref><ref>https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence</ref> If rape was an artificial, social construct for asserting male power over women, in order to 'put them in their place', one would expect that the majority of rape victims would be older, wealthier and higher status women.
 
There is also a body of evidence that suggests that reducing male frustration reduces incidents of rape, which also refutes the notion rape is not sexually motivated.
Robust evidence also suggests that making prostitution legal or more widely available leads to lower rates of sexual violence towards women in general and prostitutes, with this finding being replicated in various countries such as the Netherlands,<ref>https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pol.20150299</ref> the United States,<ref>https://www.nber.org/papers/w20281.pdf</ref><ref>https://thinkprogress.org/craigslist-erotic-services-platform-3eab46092717/</ref> and Australia (where the banning of brothels in the state of Queensland may have also been a causative factor in a large increase in male violent crime in general).<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2064544</ref> Thus, it is clear that male sexual deprivation is one of the main causative factors of rape, but evidence suggests that typically only violent, psychopathic men will respond to this deprivation by actually committing acts of rape,<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229075046_Life-Course_Persistent_Offenders_and_the_Propensity_to_Commit_Sexual_Assault</ref> although a study in New York found the majority of men who frequent prostitutes reported that they may resort to rape if the indoor brothels they visited were made illegal in the future.<ref>http://www.micaelasviatschi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sex_crimeNYC.pdf</ref>
There is also some evidence that the reversal of the prohibition of pornography in some societies where it was previously proscribed led to lower rates of rape,<ref>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm</ref> likely due to pornography acting as a release valve for sexual frustration.
 
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=== "Women never provoke rape" ===
=== "Women never provoke rape" ===
Contrary to feminist claims, there is [[#Rape baiting|substantial of evidence]] that at least some women like to provoke sexual attention of other men, often indeed with the intention of being forced into sex. Such women are likely predominantly [[life history|fast life history strategists]] on the [[BPD]] spectrum.
Contrary to feminist claims, there is [[#Rape baiting|substantial of evidence]] that at least some women like to provoke sexual attention of other men, often indeed with the intention of being forced into sex. Such women are likely predominantly [[life history|fast life history strategists]] on the [[BPD]] spectrum.
== Evolution ==
== Evolution ==
Tendencies to rape and desires to be raped are more common in humans and animals than commonly assumed. This suggests rape is an adaptive behavior, i.e. a behavior that evolved because it enabled males and females to reproduce more often in the past.
Tendencies to rape and desires to be raped are more common in humans and animals than commonly assumed. This suggests rape is an adaptive behavior, i.e. a behavior that evolved because it enabled males and females to reproduce more often in the past.


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There exists some evidence that women are more likely to conceive from rape intercourse than consensual intercourse which may be evidence of the adaptiveness of rape.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12110-003-1014-0</ref><ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/08/20/study-rape-victims-have-a-higher-pregnancy-rates-than-other-women/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5918e1e478ea</ref> For obvious reasons, this is a very controversial subject to study (with feminists employing the Naturalistic Fallacy to condemn such findings—i.e they argue that if rape is 'natural' then it must be good, ergo researchers into these matters are encouraging rape) and the evidence for this assertion is mixed.
There exists some evidence that women are more likely to conceive from rape intercourse than consensual intercourse which may be evidence of the adaptiveness of rape.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12110-003-1014-0</ref><ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/08/20/study-rape-victims-have-a-higher-pregnancy-rates-than-other-women/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5918e1e478ea</ref> For obvious reasons, this is a very controversial subject to study (with feminists employing the Naturalistic Fallacy to condemn such findings—i.e they argue that if rape is 'natural' then it must be good, ergo researchers into these matters are encouraging rape) and the evidence for this assertion is mixed.
Gottschall & Gottschall, using data from a national telephone survey of violence against women in the United States, found that there was a double (6.4% versus 3.1%) rate of conception from acts of rape vs consensual intercourse.
Gottschall & Gottschall, using data from a national telephone survey of violence against women in the United States, found that there was a double (6.4% versus 3.1%) rate of conception from acts of rape vs consensual intercourse.
The researchers controlled for the possible confounding variable of birth control (i.e that the increased conception risk was explained by rape victims being less likely to be on birth control.)
The researchers controlled for the possible confounding variable of birth control (i.e that the increased conception risk was explained by rape victims being less likely to be on birth control.)
The researchers explained the finding by speculating that the rapists are especially targeting women that are ovulating, but the finding could also be explicable by rape inducing ovulation in women. This may be also possibly explained by the theory that chemicals in rapist's semen induce ovulation in the women subsequent to an act of rape.
The researchers explained the finding by speculating that the rapists are especially targeting women that are ovulating, but the finding could also be explicable by rape inducing ovulation in women. This may be also possibly explained by the theory that chemicals in rapist's semen induce ovulation in the women subsequent to an act of rape.
Further evidence for women to be adapted to rape is their much less specific genital arousal in response to visual stimuli. While men primarily only exhibit penile arousal in response to [[neoteny|neotenous]], post-pubertal females,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#It_is_normal_for_healthy_men_to_find_pubescent_.26_prepubescent_females_sexually_arousing</ref> women's vaginal arousal can even be elicited by the sight of animal sex. This unspecific sensitivity might protect them from skin tears and infection during rape.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-008-9339-8</ref> Moreover, up to 50% of women report receiving an orgasm during rape.<ref>https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/science-arousal-during-rape/</ref>
Further evidence for women to be adapted to rape is their much less specific genital arousal in response to visual stimuli. While men primarily only exhibit penile arousal in response to [[neoteny|neotenous]], post-pubertal females,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#It_is_normal_for_healthy_men_to_find_pubescent_.26_prepubescent_females_sexually_arousing</ref> women's vaginal arousal can even be elicited by the sight of animal sex. This unspecific sensitivity might protect them from skin tears and infection during rape.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-008-9339-8</ref> Moreover, up to 50% of women report receiving an orgasm during rape.<ref>https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/science-arousal-during-rape/</ref>


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Evolutionary psychology can provide potential explanations for rape and rape fantasies:
Evolutionary psychology can provide potential explanations for rape and rape fantasies:
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'''Male dominance/female surrender''': This is a basic pattern in the animal world in which the male must present a display of dominance, pursue, and sometimes physically subdue the female and overcome her coyness (Helen Fisher, 1999).<ref name="fisher1999">Fisher H. 1999. The first sex. New York: Random House.</ref> [[Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt]] (1989) suggests this behavior comes from from primitive brain regions that have evolved to ensure successful mating in reptiles, birds, and mammals.<ref>Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref><ref name="eibl1990">Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1990. ''Dominance, Submission, and Love: Sexual Pathologies from the Perspective of Ethology.'' In: Feierman, J. R. (ed.): Pedophilia. Biosocial Dimensions. Springer-Verlag, New York, 1990 151-175. [[https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-4613-9682-6_6 Abstract]]</ref> Helen Fisher also suggests that females may have a natural desire to surrender to a selected, dominant male.<ref name="fisher1999" /> Women may prefer a potential of threat from their males to test his ability to defend against other males, being the physically weaker sex ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]). The trope of the female taming the ruthless man is also extremely common in erotic literature for women.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_drawn_more_than_men_to_nonfiction_stories_of_rape.2C_murder.2C_and_serial_killers</ref> There is evidence that male-perpetrated female-directed violence may allow greater sexual access to a female.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_who_exhibit_antisocial_and_criminal_behaviors_reproduce_more_successfully</ref> Women's fantasies to be raped hence merely represent their desire to be captured by the strongest male among a wide variety of men she tests. Hence, rape fantasies go hand in hand with [[slut|sluttiness]] to arouse the attention of many men.
'''Male dominance/female surrender''': This is a basic pattern in the animal world in which the male must present a display of dominance, pursue, and sometimes physically subdue the female and overcome her coyness (Helen Fisher, 1999).<ref name="fisher1999">Fisher H. 1999. The first sex. New York: Random House.</ref> [[Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt]] (1989) suggests this behavior comes from from primitive brain regions that have evolved to ensure successful mating in reptiles, birds, and mammals.<ref>Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref><ref name="eibl1990">Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1990. ''Dominance, Submission, and Love: Sexual Pathologies from the Perspective of Ethology.'' In: Feierman, J. R. (ed.): Pedophilia. Biosocial Dimensions. Springer-Verlag, New York, 1990 151-175. [[https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-4613-9682-6_6 Abstract]]</ref> Helen Fisher also suggests that females may have a natural desire to surrender to a selected, dominant male.<ref name="fisher1999" /> Women may prefer a potential of threat from their males to test his ability to defend against other males, being the physically weaker sex ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]). The trope of the female taming the ruthless man is also extremely common in erotic literature for women.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_drawn_more_than_men_to_nonfiction_stories_of_rape.2C_murder.2C_and_serial_killers</ref> There is evidence that male-perpetrated female-directed violence may allow greater sexual access to a female.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_who_exhibit_antisocial_and_criminal_behaviors_reproduce_more_successfully</ref> Women's fantasies to be raped hence merely represent their desire to be captured by the strongest male among a wide variety of men she tests. Hence, rape fantasies go hand in hand with [[slut|sluttiness]] to arouse the attention of many men.
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'''[[Signaling theory|Zahevian/costly signal]]''': Relatedly to the dominance/surrender model, the ability to rape may also act as a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory costly signal] of physical strength and high status, and may tie into [[Scientific Blackpill#On_average.2C_women_are_attracted_to_the_Dark_Triad.E2.80.94narcissism.2C_manipulativeness.2C_.26_psychopathy|women's preference for low-empathy men]]. Some evidence for this hypothesis may be provided by studies finding that women are more likely to subsequent date men that successfully rape them vs men who attempt and fail to rape them, with Ellis, Widmayer, and Palmer (2009) finding that of North American female college students who reported being raped, 19.4% of women who successfully resisted the attacker vs 27.2% of women who failed to stop the assault reported subsequent acts of sexual intercourse with the attacker.<ref name="ref50">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0306624X08316711</ref>
'''[[Signaling theory|Zahevian/costly signal]]''': Relatedly to the dominance/surrender model, the ability to rape may also act as a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory costly signal] of physical strength and high status, and may tie into [[Scientific Blackpill#On_average.2C_women_are_attracted_to_the_Dark_Triad.E2.80.94narcissism.2C_manipulativeness.2C_.26_psychopathy|women's preference for low-empathy men]]. Some evidence for this hypothesis may be provided by studies finding that women are more likely to subsequent date men that successfully rape them vs men who attempt and fail to rape them, with Ellis, Widmayer, and Palmer (2009) finding that of North American female college students who reported being raped, 19.4% of women who successfully resisted the attacker vs 27.2% of women who failed to stop the assault reported subsequent acts of sexual intercourse with the attacker.<ref name="ref50">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0306624X08316711</ref>
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'''Warfare''': During warfare common between ancestral tribes, men of both high and low status could likely vastly increase their [[reproductive success|reproductive success]] by raping the captured women with little fear of reprisal. Some have also proposed that men's tendency to rape during war can be seen as a mechanism that promotes in-group cohesion by having men break a powerful social taboo together.<ref>https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/explaining-rape-during-civil-war-crossnational-evidence-19802009/30FC323D6DA7E923547156CC0E947213</ref>
'''Warfare''': During warfare common between ancestral tribes, men of both high and low status could likely vastly increase their [[reproductive success|reproductive success]] by raping the captured women with little fear of reprisal. Some have also proposed that men's tendency to rape during war can be seen as a mechanism that promotes in-group cohesion by having men break a powerful social taboo together.<ref>https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/explaining-rape-during-civil-war-crossnational-evidence-19802009/30FC323D6DA7E923547156CC0E947213</ref>
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'''Sexual deprivation''': Sexual deprivation may urge men to rape as suggested by Thornhill and Palmer (2000). However, this has been disputed recently.<ref name="ref48">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162309596000763</ref> Men may also rape in order to satisfy a fetish for violent and coercive sex, out of a psychopathic drive for high levels of sexual stimulation (these rapists typically being sexually experienced), or men being driven in some cases to rape their partner when they suspect cuckoldry,<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-006-1009-8</ref> in order to compete with the male rival for impregnation of their partner.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1037%2F1089-2680.12.1.86</ref>
'''Sexual deprivation''': Sexual deprivation may urge men to rape as suggested by Thornhill and Palmer (2000). However, this has been disputed recently.<ref name="ref48">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162309596000763</ref> Men may also rape in order to satisfy a fetish for violent and coercive sex, out of a psychopathic drive for high levels of sexual stimulation (these rapists typically being sexually experienced), or men being driven in some cases to rape their partner when they suspect cuckoldry,<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-006-1009-8</ref> in order to compete with the male rival for impregnation of their partner.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1037%2F1089-2680.12.1.86</ref>
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== Rape fantasies ==
== Rape fantasies ==
[[File:Womens fantasies.PNG|400px|thumb|right|Women's rape fantasies. [[Scientific_Blackpill#62.25_of_women_have_fantasies_about_rape_and_other_forced_sex_acts|More information.]]]]
[[File:Womens fantasies.PNG|400px|thumb|right|Women's rape fantasies. [[Scientific_Blackpill#62.25_of_women_have_fantasies_about_rape_and_other_forced_sex_acts|More information.]]]]
Dr. Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist analyzed PornHub's search and views data and he found that women were more than twice as likely as men to search for videos where women are abused or forced to participate in nonconsensual sex. Women preferred videos with tags like "painful anal crying", "public disgrace", "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced", or "rape". 25% of all straight porn searches by women were for videos featuring violence against women and 5% of searches by women are for content portraying nonconsensual sex.<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn</ref>
Dr. Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist analyzed PornHub's search and views data and he found that women were more than twice as likely as men to search for videos where women are abused or forced to participate in nonconsensual sex. Women preferred videos with tags like "painful anal crying", "public disgrace", "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced", or "rape". 25% of all straight porn searches by women were for videos featuring violence against women and 5% of searches by women are for content portraying nonconsensual sex.<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn</ref>


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While females may not actually want to be raped, most females (even many/most feminists) naturally like manly men who take charge of them and do what they want to them, not [[incel|feminine men]] begging them for sex and asking their permission nanosecond by nanosecond. This is partly evidenced by around 93% of women preferring to be asked on a date vs. doing the asking.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#93.25_of_women_preferred_being_asked_out_on_a_date_rather_than_doing_the_asking</ref> Women who prefer their partner to take initiative, certainly don't want to be asked for confirmation because then it would be (partly) also their initiative. Since most women probably don't want to be violently raped, a more accurate term would be "sexual coercion fantasies", but since the meaning of rape has [[#Definition creep|shifted]] to include even minor levels of coercion, one might as well use that term.
While females may not actually want to be raped, most females (even many/most feminists) naturally like manly men who take charge of them and do what they want to them, not [[incel|feminine men]] begging them for sex and asking their permission nanosecond by nanosecond. This is partly evidenced by around 93% of women preferring to be asked on a date vs. doing the asking.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#93.25_of_women_preferred_being_asked_out_on_a_date_rather_than_doing_the_asking</ref> Women who prefer their partner to take initiative, certainly don't want to be asked for confirmation because then it would be (partly) also their initiative. Since most women probably don't want to be violently raped, a more accurate term would be "sexual coercion fantasies", but since the meaning of rape has [[#Definition creep|shifted]] to include even minor levels of coercion, one might as well use that term.
== Rape baiting ==
== Rape baiting ==


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Feminists often blame men for the prevalence of a "[[rape culture]]", but curiously, so far not a ''single'' woman has taken action to shut down a [https://www.reddit.com/r/rapekink subreddit full of women] fantasizing and telling real life stories about getting raped. Of course, females and [[numales]] on Reddit have successfully shut down the first incel subreddit [[/r/incels]] because of ''one'' rape-fantasy related post posted by a troll.
Feminists often blame men for the prevalence of a "[[rape culture]]", but curiously, so far not a ''single'' woman has taken action to shut down a [https://www.reddit.com/r/rapekink subreddit full of women] fantasizing and telling real life stories about getting raped. Of course, females and [[numales]] on Reddit have successfully shut down the first incel subreddit [[/r/incels]] because of ''one'' rape-fantasy related post posted by a troll.


Below is one of many female's descriptions from the [[reddit|subreddit]] [https://old.reddit.com/r/Rapekink /r/rapekink], of successfuly getting a man to want to rape her by feeding him drinks and 'baiting' him ([https://old.reddit.com/r/Rapekink/comments/844iws/update_first_rapebait_plan_oh_my_god_it_worked/ direct link], [http://archive.ph/oZ0CU archived version]):
Below is one of many female's descriptions from the [[reddit|subreddit]] [https://old.reddit.com/r/Rapekink /r/rapekink], of successfuly getting a man to want to rape her by feeding him drinks and 'baiting' him ([https://old.reddit.com/r/Rapekink/comments/844iws/update_first_rapebait_plan_oh_my_god_it_worked/ direct link], [http://archive.ph/oZ0CU archived version]):
{{quote|So I had my party last weekend. […] I started acting like I'm crashing, leaning against the counter, acting like I couldn't tell that the way I was leaning a LOT of my cleavage was visible. […] I started being more aggressively flirty with one of the guys, giggling drunkenly at his jokes, touching his arm, brushing his crotch with my arm and so on, then I took him to my room and started making out on my bed. […] I told him to leave my room and fell back on the bed. He left the room, turning the light off on his way out. I was so disappointed. […] I just laid there for a few minutes, wondering if I could have played it differently. Then I heard the door open. […] He tapped me a bit on the shoulder, seemingly checking if I was really asleep. I didn't react. He ran his finger down my shoulder, down my back and oh my god, I was so tense, but kept still. […] He was on top of me and starred at me. It was the guy from earlier. He stared at me for a second and then just kept going, thrusting into me hard and fast. He pushed his arm against my chest, which actually constricted me quite a lot and just kept fucking me. I was so into it I didn't quite have the energy to struggle much, […] '''I came so hard'''.}}
{{quote|So I had my party last weekend. […] I started acting like I'm crashing, leaning against the counter, acting like I couldn't tell that the way I was leaning a LOT of my cleavage was visible. […] I started being more aggressively flirty with one of the guys, giggling drunkenly at his jokes, touching his arm, brushing his crotch with my arm and so on, then I took him to my room and started making out on my bed. […] I told him to leave my room and fell back on the bed. He left the room, turning the light off on his way out. I was so disappointed. […] I just laid there for a few minutes, wondering if I could have played it differently. Then I heard the door open. […] He tapped me a bit on the shoulder, seemingly checking if I was really asleep. I didn't react. He ran his finger down my shoulder, down my back and oh my god, I was so tense, but kept still. […] He was on top of me and starred at me. It was the guy from earlier. He stared at me for a second and then just kept going, thrusting into me hard and fast. He pushed his arm against my chest, which actually constricted me quite a lot and just kept fucking me. I was so into it I didn't quite have the energy to struggle much, […] '''I came so hard'''.}}
==Are incels rapists?==
==Are incels rapists?==
The vast majority of incels do not support rape with very [[Caamib|few exceptions]]. Many, however, assume that involuntary celibacy is more painful for men than rape is for women. Deprivation is much more agonizing than discomfort that passes. This does not excuse rapists, but it is something women don't understand.
The vast majority of incels do not support rape with very [[Caamib|few exceptions]]. Many, however, assume that involuntary celibacy is more painful for men than rape is for women. Deprivation is much more agonizing than discomfort that passes. This does not excuse rapists, but it is something women don't understand.


Several lines of research seem to disprove the notion that sexually unsuccessful men are more likely to be driven to rape out of desperation: Lalumière et al. (1996) conducted a study that found that sexually coercive men were more sexually successful, and had a higher self-perceived mate value.<ref name="ref48"></ref> Another study on male college students (N = 795) found that men who confessed to having previously raped or engaged in acts of sexual coercion also typically reported having more sexual partners than control men. While some of these rapists were recidivists, so their acts of rape would have served to also inflate their self-reported partner count, "number of sex partners" was found to be a significant predictor of likelihood of having previously carried out acts of sexual violence.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24567167</ref> Ellis, Widmayer & Palmer (2009) found that rapists reported a much greater number of lifetime sex partners (both mean and median) compared to non-rapists, though this may have been influenced by the fact that the authors didn't exclude non-heterosexual males from the sample.<ref name="ref50"></ref> Conversely, adult virgins tend to report lower engagement in risky behavior, a low [[sex drive]] and other slow [[life history]] traits.<ref>Haydon, A. A., Cheng, M. M., Herring, A. H., McRee, A.-L., & Halpern, C. T. (2013). Prevalence and Predictors of Sexual Inexperience in Adulthood. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(2), 221–230. doi:10.1007/s10508-013-0164-3</ref>
Several lines of research seem to disprove the notion that sexually unsuccessful men are more likely to be driven to rape out of desperation: Lalumière et al. (1996) conducted a study that found that sexually coercive men were more sexually successful, and had a higher self-perceived mate value.<ref name="ref48"></ref> Another study on male college students (N = 795) found that men who confessed to having previously raped or engaged in acts of sexual coercion also typically reported having more sexual partners than control men. While some of these rapists were recidivists, so their acts of rape would have served to also inflate their self-reported partner count, "number of sex partners" was found to be a significant predictor of likelihood of having previously carried out acts of sexual violence.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24567167</ref> Ellis, Widmayer & Palmer (2009) found that rapists reported a much greater number of lifetime sex partners (both mean and median) compared to non-rapists, though this may have been influenced by the fact that the authors didn't exclude non-heterosexual males from the sample.<ref name="ref50"></ref> Conversely, adult virgins tend to report lower engagement in risky behavior, a low [[sex drive]] and other slow [[life history]] traits.<ref>Haydon, A. A., Cheng, M. M., Herring, A. H., McRee, A.-L., & Halpern, C. T. (2013). Prevalence and Predictors of Sexual Inexperience in Adulthood. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(2), 221–230. doi:10.1007/s10508-013-0164-3</ref>
Groth and Birnbaum (1979) summarized:<ref>Groth AN, Birnbaum HJ. 1979. ''Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender.''</ref>
Groth and Birnbaum (1979) summarized:<ref>Groth AN, Birnbaum HJ. 1979. ''Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender.''</ref>
{{quote|It is commonly—and mistakenly—assumed that men who rape do so either because they are sexually aroused or because they are ''sexually frustrated'', or both. In fact, as we have seen, the motives underlying such assaults have more to do with issues of [[Chad|anger and power]] than with pleasure and desire.}}
{{quote|It is commonly—and mistakenly—assumed that men who rape do so either because they are sexually aroused or because they are ''sexually frustrated'', or both. In fact, as we have seen, the motives underlying such assaults have more to do with issues of [[Chad|anger and power]] than with pleasure and desire.}}
Given that the majority of rapes of women (at least in the United States) are reported to be committed by acquaintances of the victims rather than strangers,<ref>https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence</ref> and incels frequently report being shunned even from platonic relations with women, one could speculate that the inordinate fear some feminists have of incels committing acts of sexual violence is not caused by their fear of the act itself, but their primordial terror of being impregnated by what they see as 'inferior' men.
Given that the majority of rapes of women (at least in the United States) are reported to be committed by acquaintances of the victims rather than strangers,<ref>https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence</ref> and incels frequently report being shunned even from platonic relations with women, one could speculate that the inordinate fear some feminists have of incels committing acts of sexual violence is not caused by their fear of the act itself, but their primordial terror of being impregnated by what they see as 'inferior' men.
It also important to note that hitherto none of the mass killers who self-identified as incels committed any acts of sexual violence against women prior to the execution of their massacres, despite their suicidal/homicidal intentions, and the obvious lack of non-metaphysical consequences for such deeds after their deaths.
It also important to note that hitherto none of the mass killers who self-identified as incels committed any acts of sexual violence against women prior to the execution of their massacres, despite their suicidal/homicidal intentions, and the obvious lack of non-metaphysical consequences for such deeds after their deaths.


Rapists tend to have negative views of women, endorse rape myths, and identify with a hypermasculine role,<ref>Robertiello, G., & Terry, K. J. (2007). Can we profile sex offenders? A review of sex offender typologies. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 12(5), 508–518. doi:10.1016/j.avb.2007.02.010 </ref> which does overlap with views in the [[incelosphere|incel subculture]]. However, in actual rapists, these views are likely rather caused by a genetic [[life history|fast life history disposition]], while (online) incels are simply [[redpill]]ed. The question is whether the mere possession of such views increases the risk to commit rape or whether such views outside the incelosphere are only indicative of certain behavioral dispositions which are the actual cause of sexual violence. Related research favors the latter explanation. For example, playing of violent video games does not increase the incidence of real-world violent behavior.<ref>https://www.scribd.com/document/348071423/Div-46-Video-Games-Societal-Violence-Statement</ref> Research also shows that it is a widespread myth that exposure to "radical" ideas would increase violence (if misogyny can be considered radical at all given the very high prevalence of means to [[female subordination|constrain female sexuality]] in human history). John Horgan, director of the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Pennsylvania State University said:<ref>https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/everything-youve-been-told-about-radicalization-is-wrong-80445/</ref>
Rapists tend to have negative views of women, endorse rape myths, and identify with a hypermasculine role,<ref>Robertiello, G., & Terry, K. J. (2007). Can we profile sex offenders? A review of sex offender typologies. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 12(5), 508–518. doi:10.1016/j.avb.2007.02.010 </ref> which does overlap with views in the [[incelosphere|incel subculture]]. However, in actual rapists, these views are likely rather caused by a genetic [[life history|fast life history disposition]], while (online) incels are simply [[redpill]]ed. The question is whether the mere possession of such views increases the risk to commit rape or whether such views outside the incelosphere are only indicative of certain behavioral dispositions which are the actual cause of sexual violence. Related research favors the latter explanation. For example, playing of violent video games does not increase the incidence of real-world violent behavior.<ref>https://www.scribd.com/document/348071423/Div-46-Video-Games-Societal-Violence-Statement</ref> Research also shows that it is a widespread myth that exposure to "radical" ideas would increase violence (if misogyny can be considered radical at all given the very high prevalence of means to [[female subordination|constrain female sexuality]] in human history). John Horgan, director of the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Pennsylvania State University said:<ref>https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/everything-youve-been-told-about-radicalization-is-wrong-80445/</ref>
{{quote|The idea that radicalization causes terrorism is perhaps the greatest myth alive today in terrorism research. [...] [First,] the overwhelming majority of people who hold radical beliefs do not engage in violence. And second, ''there is increasing evidence that people who engage in terrorism don’t necessarily hold radical beliefs.''}}
{{quote|The idea that radicalization causes terrorism is perhaps the greatest myth alive today in terrorism research. [...] [First,] the overwhelming majority of people who hold radical beliefs do not engage in violence. And second, ''there is increasing evidence that people who engage in terrorism don’t necessarily hold radical beliefs.''}}
{{see_also|[[Inceldom_FAQ#Are_incels_violent.3F|Are incels violent?]]}}
{{see_also|[[Inceldom_FAQ#Are_incels_violent.3F|Are incels violent?]]}}
==Memes and art==
==Memes and art==
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==References==
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==See also==
==See also==
* [[Sexual harassment]]
* [[Sexual harassment]]
* [[Lordosis]]
* [[Lordosis]]
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* [[MeToo]]
* [[MeToo]]
* [[Cancel Culture]]
* [[Cancel Culture]]
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