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Those [[autism|hyperfocusing]] on looks decided that a femcel is a "2" on the [[decile scale]], just below the [[femcelish]] woman; however, inceldom is not actually that much related to looks (see [[causes of inceldom]]). Nonetheless, she isn't at the bottom of the totem pole as femcels tend to [[mog]] (i.e. manage to one-up) the [[truefemcel]] woman in looks, [[social status]] and overall charm. Femcels are commonly seen as [[volcel]]s since they can easily get [[sex]], except in rare and unusual circumstances.
Those [[autism|hyperfocusing]] on looks decided that a femcel is a "2" on the [[decile scale]], just below the [[femcelish]] woman; however, inceldom is not actually that much related to looks (see [[causes of inceldom]]). Nonetheless, she isn't at the bottom of the totem pole as femcels tend to [[mog]] (i.e. manage to one-up) the [[truefemcel]] woman in looks, [[social status]] and overall charm. Femcels are commonly seen as [[volcel]]s since they can easily get [[sex]], except in rare and unusual circumstances.
== Existence ==
== Existence ==
[[File:Femcel1.jpg|right|thumb]]
[[File:Femcel1.jpg|right|thumb]]
Since the early days of the incelosphere, there has been a controversy between [[mancel]]s and femcels over inclusiveness in the [[incelosphere]]. This sometimes consisted of malecels having a proclivity for suggesting that femcels are [[standardcel]]s or [[nearcel]]s. This sentiment is especially the case for [[truecel]]s who tend to have an exclusive attitude with a tendency towards policing of the term "incel". However both male [[nearcel]]s and femcels have unanimously given credence to the inclusion of the following women as genuine [[incelibates]]: [[Christine Chubbuck]], [[Lizzie Velasquez]], [[Grace McDaniels]], [[Mary Ann Bevan]] and [[Eman Aty]].
Since the early days of the incelosphere, there has been a controversy between [[mancel]]s and femcels over inclusiveness in the [[incelosphere]]. This sometimes consisted of malecels having a proclivity for suggesting that femcels are [[standardcel]]s or [[nearcel]]s. This sentiment is especially the case for [[truecel]]s who tend to have an exclusive attitude with a tendency towards policing of the term "incel". However both male [[nearcel]]s and femcels have unanimously given credence to the inclusion of the following women as genuine [[incelibates]]: [[Christine Chubbuck]], [[Lizzie Velasquez]], [[Grace McDaniels]], [[Mary Ann Bevan]] and [[Eman Aty]].


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There are various ways in which one can {{w|Steelmanning|steelman}} the femcel position: For example, there are some [[life history|fast-strategic]] men [[Chad|who never commit]], but only [[pump and dump]], who would readily give women sex, but would not be good partners and would not invest in the offspring at all; and men who seek out non-coy women the most may be the least committing. Further, historically, there was a great concern about women giving sex away easily, which was particularly driven by female [[intrasexual competition]] (gossip),<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1037/1089-2680.6.2.166</ref> and thus women would likely face a real reputational risks when giving up their coyness, which may drive some of them into inceldom, even though they could get sex easily. Furthermore, both men and women may be adapted for [[arranged marriage]],<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491201000308</ref> and combined with their already greater coyness and [[hypoagency|diminished agency]] might make it even more awkward and unnatural for women to simply 'date' someone, driving them into inceldom when they do not get married. Since women are less sociosexual, the degenerate emphasis on causal sex in contemporary culture may be even ''more'' of an evolutionary mismatch for women, at least to those who are [[life history|slow-life strategist]]s as per their genetic makeup, in addition to their somewhat grater shift in age at first marriage compared to men when compared to pre-industrial eras (see the figure below).
There are various ways in which one can {{w|Steelmanning|steelman}} the femcel position: For example, there are some [[life history|fast-strategic]] men [[Chad|who never commit]], but only [[pump and dump]], who would readily give women sex, but would not be good partners and would not invest in the offspring at all; and men who seek out non-coy women the most may be the least committing. Further, historically, there was a great concern about women giving sex away easily, which was particularly driven by female [[intrasexual competition]] (gossip),<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1037/1089-2680.6.2.166</ref> and thus women would likely face a real reputational risks when giving up their coyness, which may drive some of them into inceldom, even though they could get sex easily. Furthermore, both men and women may be adapted for [[arranged marriage]],<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491201000308</ref> and combined with their already greater coyness and [[hypoagency|diminished agency]] might make it even more awkward and unnatural for women to simply 'date' someone, driving them into inceldom when they do not get married. Since women are less sociosexual, the degenerate emphasis on causal sex in contemporary culture may be even ''more'' of an evolutionary mismatch for women, at least to those who are [[life history|slow-life strategist]]s as per their genetic makeup, in addition to their somewhat grater shift in age at first marriage compared to men when compared to pre-industrial eras (see the figure below).
==Causes==
==Causes==
===Incel Women===
===Incel Women===
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* Men and women alike may be affected by various [[evolutionary mismatch]]es disturbing normal sexual functioning such as the absence of [[arranged marriage]]. Another evolutionary mismatch may be women's unusual high-status role, possibly due to relieving women of the need to trade [[resources for orgasms]]. Women seem to be even more adversely affected than men by the overall slowing of [[life history|LH]] and deferral of marriage (see graph on the right), making it likely that femcels, to the extent they exist, they tend to be older, more educated, and with arranged marriage adaptations such as poor flirting skills and particularly high passivity.
* Men and women alike may be affected by various [[evolutionary mismatch]]es disturbing normal sexual functioning such as the absence of [[arranged marriage]]. Another evolutionary mismatch may be women's unusual high-status role, possibly due to relieving women of the need to trade [[resources for orgasms]]. Women seem to be even more adversely affected than men by the overall slowing of [[life history|LH]] and deferral of marriage (see graph on the right), making it likely that femcels, to the extent they exist, they tend to be older, more educated, and with arranged marriage adaptations such as poor flirting skills and particularly high passivity.
* Physical attractiveness may matter slightly more for women than it does for men,<ref>Haydon, A. A., Cheng, M. M., Herring, A. H., McRee, A.-L., & Halpern, C. T. (2013). Prevalence and Predictors of Sexual Inexperience in Adulthood. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(2), 221–230. doi:10.1007/s10508-013-0164-3</ref> but for both sexes looks are only a minor factor in determining sexual success (see [[causes of inceldom]]).
* Physical attractiveness may matter slightly more for women than it does for men,<ref>Haydon, A. A., Cheng, M. M., Herring, A. H., McRee, A.-L., & Halpern, C. T. (2013). Prevalence and Predictors of Sexual Inexperience in Adulthood. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(2), 221–230. doi:10.1007/s10508-013-0164-3</ref> but for both sexes looks are only a minor factor in determining sexual success (see [[causes of inceldom]]).
Of course, with [[incelbian]] women it's a different story since some lesbocels tend to live in conservative deep-red states who can't find any other lesbians anywhere within their vicinity. If they do, these lesbians are usually in the closet, so out of reach. Of course, women can be sexless, but this is largely self-inflicted. Men have a [[libido|higher sex drive]] meaning there will always be men around willing to satisfy any woman sexually.
Of course, with [[incelbian]] women it's a different story since some lesbocels tend to live in conservative deep-red states who can't find any other lesbians anywhere within their vicinity. If they do, these lesbians are usually in the closet, so out of reach. Of course, women can be sexless, but this is largely self-inflicted. Men have a [[libido|higher sex drive]] meaning there will always be men around willing to satisfy any woman sexually.
===Volcel Women===
===Volcel Women===
[[Jim's Blog]] explains:<ref>[https://blog.jim.com/culture/who-gets-sex/ Who Gets Sex], Jim's Blog</ref>
[[Jim's Blog]] explains:<ref>[https://blog.jim.com/culture/who-gets-sex/ Who Gets Sex], Jim's Blog</ref>
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*Grasseater woman
*Grasseater woman
*Fakecel
*Fakecel
*[[herbivore men|herbivore]] woman
*herbivore woman (reference to [[herbivore men]])
*Inceless
*Inceless
*Incelette
*Incelette
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===History===
===History===
The earliest known English-speaking and strictly femcel forum was "Loveshy women", a Yahoo group which was founded on the 22nd of October 2004 (see [[/groups/loveshy-women]]). After that, another early femcel group was [[r/foreveralonewomen]]. Because of repeated harassment, the board [[r/foreveralonewomen]] was made private. The other boards for femcels, [[r/femaleincels]] and its predecessor [[r/femcels]] have been banned as of this post. The only relatively large board that remains is [[r/trufemcels]] which is mostly populated by [[astroturfing]] male [[incel|incels]]. But as always, with enough [[astroturfing]] it will probably eventually be made up of real women.
The earliest known English-speaking and strictly femcel forum was "Loveshy women", a Yahoo group which was founded on the 22nd of October 2004 (see [[/groups/loveshy-women]]). After that, another early femcel group was [[r/foreveralonewomen]]. Because of repeated harassment, the board [[r/foreveralonewomen]] was made private. The other boards for femcels, [[r/femaleincels]] and its predecessor [[r/femcels]] have been banned as of this post. The only relatively large board that remains is [[r/trufemcels]] which is mostly populated by [[astroturfing]] male [[incel|incels]]. But as always, with enough [[astroturfing]] it will probably eventually be made up of real women.
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