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[[HeedandSucceed]] may be responsible for the usage of the term in [[incel forums]]. Although, the general defeatist sentiment with regards to inceldom can even be found in movies made prior to incel forums becoming well known, for example in [[Whatever - Extension du domaine de la lutte (movie)|''Extension du domaine de la lutte'']] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJjo3NmAEI this scene]. | [[HeedandSucceed]] may be responsible for the usage of the term in [[incel forums]]. Although, the general defeatist sentiment with regards to inceldom can even be found in movies made prior to incel forums becoming well known, for example in [[Whatever - Extension du domaine de la lutte (movie)|''Extension du domaine de la lutte'']] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJjo3NmAEI this scene]. | ||
The expression is sometimes expressed as "IT'S OGRE". This version may be a reference to how Shrek was discriminated against once his real [[face]] was known in the film ''Shrek'', | |||
Another version which express the same feeling is "'''It never began'''" or "'''It never even began'''". | Another version which express the same feeling is "'''It never began'''" or "'''It never even began'''". | ||