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In his "manifesto," Rodger often spoke of feeling invisible and being passed over by both men and women, saying they treated him like a "mouse." He was also frequently bullied by others who perceived him as being different from them. This pattern of dismissive or contemptuous treatment from his peers infuriated Rodger, who was very vain, likely another contributing factor to his eventual course of action. | In his "manifesto," Rodger often spoke of feeling invisible and being passed over by both men and women, saying they treated him like a "mouse." He was also frequently bullied by others who perceived him as being different from them. This pattern of dismissive or contemptuous treatment from his peers infuriated Rodger, who was very vain, likely another contributing factor to his eventual course of action. | ||
In sum, a confluence of factors were clearly militating against Rodger's sexual success, and this, combined with his excessive (but fragile) self-worth, it seems fair to classify him as an incel in the [ | In sum, a confluence of factors were clearly militating against Rodger's sexual success, and this, combined with his excessive (but fragile) self-worth, it seems fair to classify him as an incel in the [[Incel#Definition|broad sense of the term]]. | ||
==Interests== | ==Interests== | ||
He apparently enjoyed "swimming, hiking, reading, writing, going to the library and playing video games." His favorite video game was World of Warcraft, stating in his manifesto that at one time, "World of Warcraft was the only thing I had left to live for." Rodger also enjoyed playing other videos games series such as Halo and Call of Duty. He apparently made an effort to [[looksmaxxing|improve his physical appearance]] prior to the massacre, engaging in calisthenics as a form of bodybuilding and purchasing expensive designer clothing and sunglasses. | He apparently enjoyed "swimming, hiking, reading, writing, going to the library and playing video games." His favorite video game was World of Warcraft, stating in his manifesto that at one time, "World of Warcraft was the only thing I had left to live for." Rodger also enjoyed playing other videos games series such as Halo and Call of Duty. He apparently made an effort to [[looksmaxxing|improve his physical appearance]] prior to the massacre, engaging in calisthenics as a form of bodybuilding and purchasing expensive designer clothing and sunglasses. | ||
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On the Puahate forum that he posted on occasionally, most of the initial reaction to the attack was comprised of the site's userbase arguing over the implications of Rodger's massacre on the future of the forum, due to Rodger's potential prior use of the forum (he used his real name as his handle on the site as well as several alt accounts that may have been his judging by the writing style), which was later confirmed by his mention of Puahate in his manifesto. | On the Puahate forum that he posted on occasionally, most of the initial reaction to the attack was comprised of the site's userbase arguing over the implications of Rodger's massacre on the future of the forum, due to Rodger's potential prior use of the forum (he used his real name as his handle on the site as well as several alt accounts that may have been his judging by the writing style), which was later confirmed by his mention of Puahate in his manifesto. | ||
The users of the forum differed in their opinion as to what traits made Rodger incel, but generally concurred in their impression of (in their view) his effeminate mannerisms and general social awkwardness as being the most likely cause of his involuntary celibacy. One user wrote of Rodger (likely facetiously):{{Quote| He’s not “ugly” in layman’s terms, but he has no sex appeal. [[facial masculinity|Short lower third]] and [[fWHR|gay midface]], [[cutecel|with zero brow ridge]]. We must dig deeper [...] He should have gotten a hair-cut, [[thugmaxxing|acquired neck tattoos]] and [[dark triad|gone over the top with the sociopathic act]], that would have gotten him hotties. Unfortunately, like most on this site, he’s too aspie to realise it. Lock him up and throw away the key.<ref>https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ucsb-shooting-forum-associated-with-elliot-rodger-reacts-2014-5?r=US&IR=T</ref>}} | The users of the forum differed in their opinion as to what traits made Rodger incel, but generally concurred in their impression of (in their view) his effeminate mannerisms and general [[social awkwardness]] as being the most likely cause of his involuntary celibacy. One user wrote of Rodger (likely facetiously):{{Quote| He’s not “ugly” in layman’s terms, but he has no sex appeal. [[facial masculinity|Short lower third]] and [[fWHR|gay midface]], [[cutecel|with zero brow ridge]]. We must dig deeper [...] He should have gotten a hair-cut, [[thugmaxxing|acquired neck tattoos]] and [[dark triad|gone over the top with the sociopathic act]], that would have gotten him hotties. Unfortunately, like most on this site, he’s too aspie to realise it. Lock him up and throw away the key.<ref>https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ucsb-shooting-forum-associated-with-elliot-rodger-reacts-2014-5?r=US&IR=T</ref>}} | ||
In the [[manosphere]], particularly among pick-up artists, there was generally an attempt to distance themselves from Rodger in response to attempts by feminists and the media to link Rodger to what was then the foremost faction of the manosphere. The consensus among them was that Rodger was a "game denialist", owing to his use of the anti-PUA forum Puahate. They argued that learning PUA and deploying "game" would have helped Rodger get laid, thereby averting the massacre.<ref>https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/05/24/pickup-artists-argue-that-game-is-the-solution-to-elliot-rodger-style-rampages-heres-why-theyre-wrong/</ref> | In the [[manosphere]], particularly among pick-up artists, there was generally an attempt to distance themselves from Rodger in response to attempts by feminists and the media to link Rodger to what was then the foremost faction of the manosphere. The consensus among them was that Rodger was a "game denialist", owing to his use of the anti-PUA forum Puahate. They argued that learning PUA and deploying "game" would have helped Rodger get laid, thereby averting the massacre.<ref>https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/05/24/pickup-artists-argue-that-game-is-the-solution-to-elliot-rodger-style-rampages-heres-why-theyre-wrong/</ref> | ||
==Vlogs== | ==Vlogs== | ||
Rodger posted several videos, which generally took the form of monologues of him talking about his loneliness and (perceived, since he didn't seem to have explicitly asked women out for dates as such) rejection by women on Youtube with titles such as "Why Don't Girls Like Me?" Other videos on his channel took the form of random vlogs depicting him driving around the streets of Isla Vista while playing 80s music (a possible [[incel trait]]) and soaking in the scenery in various locales in and around the suburb. The disturbing content of these videos, which included open violent and suicidal ideation, led to someone (likely his mother) informing police of them, and they subsequently paid him a visit prior to the massacre. The deputies who visited him later described him as "[[shy]], timid and [[nice guy|polite]]." After this visit, they left him alone, as they had no legal reason to detain him. Rodger wrote in his manifesto that after this visit, he slept with one of his pistols under his pillow so he could at least get a few kills before being detained/killed by the police in the event of them attempting to avert his plans. | Rodger posted several videos, which generally took the form of monologues of him talking about his loneliness and (perceived, since he didn't seem to have explicitly asked women out for dates as such) rejection by women on Youtube with titles such as "Why Don't Girls Like Me?" Other videos on his channel took the form of random vlogs depicting him driving around the streets of Isla Vista while playing 80s music (a possible [[incel trait]]) and soaking in the scenery in various locales in and around the suburb. The disturbing content of these videos, which included open violent and suicidal ideation, led to someone (likely his mother) informing police of them, and they subsequently paid him a visit prior to the massacre. The deputies who visited him later described him as "[[shy]], timid and [[nice guy|polite]]." After this visit, they left him alone, as they had no legal reason to detain him. Rodger wrote in his manifesto that after this visit, he slept with one of his pistols under his pillow so he could at least get a few kills before being detained/killed by the police in the event of them attempting to avert his plans. | ||