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In it, Strauss describes game as boldness, speech patterns, standing out, smiling, awareness of surroundings, not asking questions, and being able to take compliments.<ref>https://calvinrosser.com/notes/the-game-neil-strauss/</ref>
In it, Strauss describes game as boldness, speech patterns, standing out, smiling, awareness of surroundings, not asking questions, and being able to take compliments.<ref>https://calvinrosser.com/notes/the-game-neil-strauss/</ref>
==RSD Nation==
==RSD Nation==
[[Real Social Dynamics|RSD Nation]] were arguably the most influential in formalizing, "game", in the [[PUA]] community. Perhaps because they were the largest PUA group in history. They argued that looks and money did not matter in dating, and that only 'game' did. RSD Nation promoted, "natural game", and defined it as changing, "how you expect the world to respond to you".<ref>https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt</ref> This boils down to thinking positively about yourself to make others do the same. In general, RSD nation promoted game as a [[neoliberal]] or highly individualistic self-actualization project, such as literally asking people to read Ayn Rand to develop game.<ref>https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt</ref> Unnatural game, promoted by followers of [[RooshV]], rather than RSD, was about "becoming the best man you can be", rather than thinking-it-to-fruition.<ref>https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-41952.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=8b7ca1dc0307f0efabe8521e348d3c2d1d26b13d-1582292509-0-Acoi0SVAM85D4ov45_jTeJOi1OGskYx97wH3rp2N_lCJyM6uuoqaCIeu_J-WQD90ra8pE6-R8ahfBzP8GR8mp7Fk6F-1bFRBSCpWj9VfvmekZAr3zaIgeaSeh1tx8qjA5shX4_J_2PjtukwMQ9YfhDXOURrgBTMLwbiBP32XOOOhtyGjiuFIMbZNbh11YheOIN67EOqaPsKzZ7KwybCLku8Kv27Mk0yFjyEkxAJDDegrSwwMc6xtYu2Bx833Lw7AHHmfUP8r_wbAQOwH0Cz6vkjlo3EdJdADfySoafrn-x0M</ref>
[[Real Social Dynamics|RSD Nation]] were arguably the most influential in formalizing, "game", in the [[PUA]] community. Perhaps because they were the largest PUA group in history. They argued that looks and money did not matter in dating, and that only 'game' did. RSD Nation promoted, "natural game", and defined it as changing "how you expect the world to respond to you".<ref>https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt</ref> This boils down to thinking positively about yourself to make others do the same. In general, RSD nation promoted game as a [[neoliberal]] or highly individualistic self-actualization project, such as literally asking people to read Ayn Rand to develop game.<ref>https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt</ref> Unnatural game, promoted by followers of [[RooshV]], rather than RSD, was about "becoming the best man you can be", rather than thinking-it-to-fruition.<ref>https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-41952.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=8b7ca1dc0307f0efabe8521e348d3c2d1d26b13d-1582292509-0-Acoi0SVAM85D4ov45_jTeJOi1OGskYx97wH3rp2N_lCJyM6uuoqaCIeu_J-WQD90ra8pE6-R8ahfBzP8GR8mp7Fk6F-1bFRBSCpWj9VfvmekZAr3zaIgeaSeh1tx8qjA5shX4_J_2PjtukwMQ9YfhDXOURrgBTMLwbiBP32XOOOhtyGjiuFIMbZNbh11YheOIN67EOqaPsKzZ7KwybCLku8Kv27Mk0yFjyEkxAJDDegrSwwMc6xtYu2Bx833Lw7AHHmfUP8r_wbAQOwH0Cz6vkjlo3EdJdADfySoafrn-x0M</ref>
== Ineffectiveness ==
== Ineffectiveness ==
Multiple studies on face-to-face, [[online dating|online]] and [[blind dating]] concluded that among a variety of physical and personality traits, including extroversion, ''only physical attractiveness'' predicted initial romantic interest and strongly so.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_speed_dating</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_video_dating</ref><ref name="walster">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref> Since game should correlate with extroversion and confidence and such traits did not predict romantic interest or meeting again after the first date, this suggests game is largely ineffective in such settings as only looks matter. One of the first studies on this phenomenon dates back to 1966,<ref name="walster"></ref> which suggests superficiality in face-to-face dating at zero-acquaintance level is not a new phenomenon.
Multiple studies on face-to-face, [[online dating|online]] and [[blind dating]] concluded that among a variety of physical and personality traits, including extroversion, ''only physical attractiveness'' predicted initial romantic interest and strongly so.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_speed_dating</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_video_dating</ref><ref name="walster">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref> Since game should correlate with extroversion and confidence and such traits did not predict romantic interest or meeting again after the first date, this suggests game is largely ineffective in such settings as only looks matter. One of the first studies on this phenomenon dates back to 1966,<ref name="walster"></ref> which suggests superficiality in face-to-face dating at zero-acquaintance level is not a new phenomenon.
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