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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel Incel article from {{CURRENTYEAR}}] | * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel Incel article from {{CURRENTYEAR}}] | ||
{{quote|When academic sources are brought forth as possible citations [the effective owner of the page] calls them 'fringe' and 'undue weight.' Then she and her programmer buddies explain that the article is negative because that's what the 'reliable sources' say."<ref>http://wikirev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2045&p=3726&hilit=incel#p3726</ref>}} | {{quote|When academic sources are brought forth as possible citations [the effective owner of the page] calls them 'fringe' and 'undue weight.' Then she and her programmer buddies explain that the article is negative because that's what the 'reliable sources' say."<ref>http://wikirev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2045&p=3726&hilit=incel#p3726</ref>}} | ||
The Wikipedia article on inceldom is by far not the only one that has recently been effectively ''captured'' by politically motivated admins. In a 2021 interview, Wikipedia's co-founder, Larry Sanger, said that he could "no longer trust the website [he] created".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0P4Cf0UCwU</ref> | |||
The Wikipedia article on inceldom is by far not the only one that has recently been effectively ''captured'' by politically motivated | |||
==History== | ==History== | ||
The first English Wikipedia article on Incel came about half-a-decade after the very beginnings of the self-identified community back in the late 90s. Wikipedia debuted on Jan. 15, 2001 and the Incel page was made on July 29, 2004.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20040729080456/http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy</ref> Using archive.org, you can see that the idea of Incel was presented as a neutral term as well as gender-neutral. It was nicely unbiased. For the next decade, incels could find [[IncelSupport]] through Wikipedia and see that it was a place for anyone. Here is an example from 2006: "Yes, hickoryridge, Cernan posted a link to this site on Wikipedia! He's doing a great job, isn't he?"<ref>http://z15.invisionfree.com/IncelSupport/ar/t42.htm</ref> | The first English Wikipedia article on Incel came about half-a-decade after the very beginnings of the self-identified community back in the late 90s. Wikipedia debuted on Jan. 15, 2001 and the Incel page was made on July 29, 2004.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20040729080456/http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy</ref> Using archive.org, you can see that the idea of Incel was presented as a neutral term as well as gender-neutral. It was nicely unbiased. For the next decade, incels could find [[IncelSupport]] through Wikipedia and see that it was a place for anyone. Here is an example from 2006: "Yes, hickoryridge, Cernan posted a link to this site on Wikipedia! He's doing a great job, isn't he?"<ref>http://z15.invisionfree.com/IncelSupport/ar/t42.htm</ref> | ||
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{{quote|Or take, for example, the article on "incel". Again, the lede is excessively long, and a full-on no-holds-barred assault on these people. The lede feels the need to mention, among other minutia, that these people are "mostly white, male and heterosexual"…Specifically mentioning "white, male and heterosexual" in the lede is quite clearly pushing a certain socio-political agenda. Anybody who denies this is either delusional or deliberately lying. Anybody who is even slightly intellectually honest will admit that there is a political message being shoved in there…" --Wopr<ref>http://wikirev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2045&p=3711&hilit=incel#p3711</ref>}} | {{quote|Or take, for example, the article on "incel". Again, the lede is excessively long, and a full-on no-holds-barred assault on these people. The lede feels the need to mention, among other minutia, that these people are "mostly white, male and heterosexual"…Specifically mentioning "white, male and heterosexual" in the lede is quite clearly pushing a certain socio-political agenda. Anybody who denies this is either delusional or deliberately lying. Anybody who is even slightly intellectually honest will admit that there is a political message being shoved in there…" --Wopr<ref>http://wikirev.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2045&p=3711&hilit=incel#p3711</ref>}} | ||
The article also implicitly [[Hybrid masculinity|softboy-shames]]. | The article also implicitly [[Hybrid masculinity|softboy-shames]]. | ||
==Admin conflict== | ==Admin conflict== | ||
In late 2018 [[Wikipedia]] admin [[Acroterion]] challenged [[GorillaWarfare]] on the neutrality of the article in the talk section of the article. | In late 2018 [[Wikipedia]] admin [[Acroterion]] challenged [[GorillaWarfare]] on the neutrality of the article in the talk section of the article. | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
*[[List of Wikipedians]] | *[[List of Wikipedians]] | ||
*[[English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee]] | *[[English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee]] | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
<references /> | <references /> | ||
==External links== | ==External links== | ||
*A big shitfest on Wikipedia on whether of not involuntary celibacy is a thing [https://archive.fo/CT95w] | *A big shitfest on Wikipedia on whether of not involuntary celibacy is a thing [https://archive.fo/CT95w] | ||
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{{B}} | {{B}} | ||
*[https://archive.fo/06Tro Declined Arbcom case about those involved with the 'incel' page breaking Wikipedia rules] | *[https://archive.fo/06Tro Declined Arbcom case about those involved with the 'incel' page breaking Wikipedia rules] | ||
[[Category:Incelphobia]] | [[Category:Incelphobia]] | ||