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[[File:Veiledegyptianwoman.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Veiled Egyptian woman (colorized, ~1870s)]] | [[File:Veiledegyptianwoman.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Veiled Egyptian woman (colorized, ~1870s)]] | ||
Women's '''subordination''' refers to the practice of treating women as lesser beings which is common across cultures and history and it is often desired by men, but also women as evidenced by the prevalence of [[rape#Rape_fantasies|rape fantasies]], [[rape#Rape_baiting|rape baiting]], [[hybristophilia]], [[scelerophilia]], [[hypergamy]], [[Sex drive#Female_passivity|masochism]], Stockholm syndrome and a desire to be 'conquered' and dominated, which are near-exclusively female phenomena. | Women's '''subordination''' refers to the practice of treating women as lesser beings which is common across cultures and history and it is often desired by men, but also at least by some women as evidenced by the prevalence of [[rape#Rape_fantasies|rape fantasies]], [[rape#Rape_baiting|rape baiting]], [[hybristophilia]], [[scelerophilia]], [[hypergamy]], [[Sex drive#Female_passivity|masochism]], Stockholm syndrome and a desire to be 'conquered' and dominated, which are near-exclusively female phenomena. This, of course, does not mean that women ought to be subordinated, that they are lesser human beings or second class citizens, and the prevalence such practices may be a mere artifacts of ancient, harsher ecologies. But nonetheless, the constancy of this phenomenon suggests there may be an [[evolution]]ary basis for it that is worth investigating. | ||
== Causes == | == Causes == | ||
The tendency for women to be subordinated to men, or for women displaying subordinating behavior may be explained by a variety of factors: | |||
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'''Feedback loops''': Selection for submissive women has possibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhances the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref> Further, any sex difference tends to result in a clear and simple social norms which then re-enforces sex differences via socialization. E.g. many honor-shame cultures place strong pressures on men to restrain the promiscuity of their wife and daughters, comparable to runaway [[virtue signaling]]. | '''Feedback loops''': Selection for submissive women has possibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhances the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref> Further, any sex difference tends to result in a clear and simple social norms which then re-enforces sex differences via socialization. E.g. many honor-shame cultures place strong pressures on men to restrain the promiscuity of their wife and daughters, comparable to runaway [[virtue signaling]]. | ||
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'''Kink/fetish''': The desire for sex-differentiated dominance and subordination may also be explained by a mere adopted sexual interest. There is evidence that individuals with a higher [[sex drive]] more often have sexual fetishes (paraphilias), in fact sex differences in sex drive largely explain sex difference in paraphilias.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1079063214525645</ref> This suggests, men and women with a high sex drive and a fast [[life history]] may be more likely engage in such dominance/submission displays, while those with a slower life history may desire more equality. | |||
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== Tantrums, shit tests and nastiness == | == Tantrums, shit tests and nastiness == | ||
The behavior of some women appears may be regarded as evidence of a desire to be subordinated, if necessary by force. | |||
For example, women are more likely than men to initiate intimate partner violence<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#More_adult_men_are_victims_of_intimate_partner_physical_violence_than_women</ref> which may be related to an innate desire to provoke a reaction from the male. | For example, women are more likely than men to initiate intimate partner violence,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#More_adult_men_are_victims_of_intimate_partner_physical_violence_than_women</ref> which may be related to an innate desire to provoke a reaction from the male, though it could also be explained by men facing greater legal consequences. | ||
In the [[manosphere]] it has often been suggested that [[feminism]] has the character of a shit test, essentially expecting to be restrained in response to their more provocative claims. | In the [[manosphere]], it has often been suggested that [[feminism]] has the character of a shit test, essentially expecting to be restrained in response to their more provocative claims. | ||
Many in the [[manosphere]], including [[Jordan Peterson]] suggested feminist women subconsciously | Many in the [[manosphere]], including [[Jordan Peterson]] suggested feminist women are subconsciously fascinated by [[Islam]] due to its traditions to subordinate women. | ||
More evidence of | More evidence of the desire to be subordinated to be widely prevalent is that even emancipated women display the same amount of sexual masochism and rape fantasies, if not even slightly more.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Even_feminist_women_are_just_as_likely_to_have_fantasies_of_forced_sex_as_are_other_women</ref> It is also evidenced by women's much more passive [[sex drive]]. | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||