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==Forum use==
==Forum use==
Elliot was an unhappy member of [[PSL|PUAhate]], which was not a self-identified incel forum.  The forum was originally started to “expose” members of the (then-burgeoning) pick-up artist industry. A particular focus was put on mocking and trolling PUA artists and posts from supposed “insiders” of the industry that were exposing the fraudulent business practices of many prominent PUAs, as well as claims that they were nowhere near as sexually successful (without paying for [[whore|whores]]) as they claimed to be.
Elliot was an unhappy member of [[PSL|PUAhate]], which was not a self-identified incel forum.  The forum was originally started to “expose” members of the (then-burgeoning) pick-up artist industry. A particular focus was put on mocking and trolling PUA artists and posts from supposed “insiders” of the industry that were exposing the fraudulent business practices of many prominent PUAs, as well as claims that these pick-up artists were nowhere near as sexually successful (without paying for [[whore|whores]]) as they claimed to be.
Due to this anti-PUA focus and the debunking of the (often ludicrous) claims of PUAs regarding the application of “game,” the forum soon attracted sexually frustrated men for whom conventional dating advice wasn’t working. Many of these men were incels, and indeed, much of the lingo and theories one reads on certain modern incel forums originated on Puahate. The forum was split between those who advocated [[looks theory]], a precursor to the [[blackpill]], and those who adopted certain beliefs of the PUAs, in particular, the [[redpill]], while generally disputing the effectiveness of “game.”
Due to this anti-PUA focus and the debunking of the (often ludicrous) claims of PUAs regarding the application of “game,” the forum soon attracted sexually frustrated men for whom conventional dating advice wasn’t working. Many of these men were incels, and indeed, much of the lingo and theories one reads on certain modern incel forums originated on Puahate. The forum was split between those who advocated [[looks theory]], a precursor to the [[blackpill]], and those who adopted certain beliefs of the PUAs, in particular, the [[redpill]], while generally disputing the effectiveness of “game.”


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While on the forum, it appears Rodger was subjected to bullying by certain other members of the forum. This, together with his probable realization that [[fakecel|many of the forum users weren’t as sexually frustrated as they claimed to be]], apparently led him to sour on the forum. Rodger ultimately condemned the site and its userbase.
While on the forum, it appears Rodger was subjected to bullying by certain other members of the forum. This, together with his probable realization that [[fakecel|many of the forum users weren’t as sexually frustrated as they claimed to be]], apparently led him to sour on the forum. Rodger ultimately condemned the site and its userbase.


His last post there (and anywhere on the internet) read: “[Puahate] is full of stupid, disgusting, mentally ill degenerates who take pleasure in putting down others.” <ref>https://www.independent.com/2015/02/20/elliot-rodger-report-details-long-struggle-mental-illness/</ref>  His shooting resulted in [[PSL| PUAhate’s]] closing, soon replaced by the site  “Sluthate,” which had a significant overlap in users.
His last post there (and anywhere on the internet) read: “Puahate is full of stupid, disgusting, mentally ill degenerates who take pleasure in putting down others.” <ref>https://www.independent.com/2015/02/20/elliot-rodger-report-details-long-struggle-mental-illness/</ref>  His shooting resulted in [[PSL| PUAhate’s]] closing, soon replaced by the site  “Sluthate,” which had a significant overlap in users.


Rodger’s manifesto never mentioned the word “incel” directly, though he spoke at length of his envy of other men’s sexual success and his sexual frustration. He only used the term “incel” a couple of times to self-identify in his internet posting career.
Rodger’s manifesto never mentioned the word “incel” directly, though he spoke at length of his envy of other men’s sexual success and his sexual frustration. He only used the term “incel” a couple of times to self-identify in his internet posting career.

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