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'''Soyboy''' (also spelled '''soy boy, soi-boi,''' or other variants) is a term used by many [[sexual trad-con]]s, [[alt-right]]ers and other types of masculinists to disparage someone for not being masculine enough.  The use of the word "soy" in this sense implies that the man in question has possibly been feminized by consuming a lot of phyto-estrogens from soy products. This is the opposite of the stereotype of "real men eat meat", likely a carryover of deep social history where the most proficient hunters brought home the game and had higher ranking of choice not only of the meat available to the tribe, but of females. Hunting required strength and prowess. The male gatherers of a tribe in most cultures were seen as low class, often the elderly and infirm. [citation needed]
'''Soyboy''' (also spelled '''soy boy, soi-boi,''' or other variants) is a term used by many [[sexual trad-con]]s, [[alt-right]]ers and other types of masculinists to disparage someone for not being masculine enough.  The use of the word "soy" in this sense implies that the man in question has possibly been feminized by consuming a lot of phytoestrogens from soy products. This is the opposite of the stereotype of "real men eat meat", likely a carryover of deep social history where the most proficient hunters brought home the game and had higher ranking of choice not only of the meat available to the tribe, but of females. Hunting required strength and prowess. The male gatherers of a tribe in most cultures were seen as low class, often the elderly and infirm.[citation needed] Moreover the most successful hunters could typically best attract women and had more offspring, even in the most egalitarian hunter-gatherers like the Hadza.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref>


Not all incels or even incel forums use the term soyboy or agree with underlying assumptions about masculinity/feminity.
Not all incels or even incel forums use the term soyboy or agree with underlying assumptions about masculinity/feminity.


The term has wide usage outside of the forums mentioned in this wiki.
The term has wide usage outside of the forums mentioned in this wiki.


==Representations of soyboys==
==Representations of soyboys==
The stereotypical image of a soyboy is a man with a beard and glasses opening his mouth and eyes wide-open and in a, "surprise!", face during pictures that is also known as the Soylent Grin.  This meme came from casual analysis of the facial expressions of male feminist video gamers and college student types, and was deemed to be a sign of submissiveness and femininity. This is similar to the 'fear grin' used by chimpanzees as a sign of submission to the chimps above them in the social dominance hierarchy, it can also often be seen performed by females attempting to be seen as 'zany' or 'quirky' when being photographed.
The stereotypical image of a soyboy is a man with a beard and glasses opening his mouth and eyes wide-open and in a, "surprise!", face during pictures that is also known as the Soylent Grin.  This meme came from casual analysis of the facial expressions of male feminist video gamers and college student types, and was deemed to be a sign of submissiveness and femininity. This is similar to the 'fear grin' used by chimpanzees as a sign of submission to the chimps above them in the social dominance hierarchy, it can also often be seen performed by females attempting to be seen as 'zany' or 'quirky' when being photographed.


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In [http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1283309/FULLTEXT01.pdf a bad academic paper on incels and this wiki] it says:
In [http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1283309/FULLTEXT01.pdf a bad academic paper on incels and this wiki] it says:


"Delicate masculinity seems to play a major role in how the movement has been created and is growing. Many members do not feel secure in their masculinity leading to the expression of aggression. This can probably also contribute to the strong female hatred that often expresses itself on the side because one part of hegemonic masculinity is to reject the feminine."
{{quote|Delicate masculinity seems to play a major role in how the movement has been created and is growing. Many members do not feel secure in their masculinity leading to the expression of aggression. This can probably also contribute to the strong female hatred that often expresses itself on the side because one part of hegemonic masculinity is to reject the feminine.}}


While this is true for some incels, a better way to explain this would be that there is a split between masculinist and non-masculinist incels.  For masculinist incels, a departure from hegemonic masculinity is a bad thing, and there may be some projected self-loathing.  For non-masculinist incels, they do not feel bad personally departing from hegemonic masculinity and their hatred instead comes from women [[hybrid masculinity|not liking feminine men]].
While this is true for some incels, a better way to explain this would be that there is a split between masculinist and non-masculinist incels.  For masculinist incels, a departure from hegemonic masculinity is a bad thing, and there may be some projected self-loathing.  For non-masculinist incels, they do not feel bad personally departing from hegemonic masculinity and their hatred instead comes from women [[hybrid masculinity|not liking feminine men]].


==See Also==
== Femininzation due to soy phytoestrogens ==
 
{{see_also|[[Feminization]]}}
 
It has been suggested vegetable foods with estrogen-like constituents (phytoestrogens) like nuts and oilseeds, soy products, cereals, breads, and legumes contribute to male feminization, which gave rise to the soyboy meme. However, a 2010 meta-study of found that soy foods did not alter measures of bioavailable testosterone concentrations in men.<ref>https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract</ref>
 
==See also==


* [[Feminization]]
*[[Cuck]]
*[[Cuck]]
*[[Hybrid masculinity]]
*[[Hybrid masculinity]]
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