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Also, Gilmartin's research which was conducted in the 1970s and early 1980s does not make allowances for the dramatic shifts in American (and Western) cultural demographics, trends and values experienced in the years and decades since the study was published (e.g. the rise and impact of the second and third waves of modern [[feminism]] on gender relations, especially the impact of modern [[feminism]] in Western countries since the 1960s and 1970s) though men are still commonly expected to be the initiator when it comes to courtship.<ref name="Elizabeth Rice Allgeier 1988" /> | Also, Gilmartin's research which was conducted in the 1970s and early 1980s does not make allowances for the dramatic shifts in American (and Western) cultural demographics, trends and values experienced in the years and decades since the study was published (e.g. the rise and impact of the second and third waves of modern [[feminism]] on gender relations, especially the impact of modern [[feminism]] in Western countries since the 1960s and 1970s) though men are still commonly expected to be the initiator when it comes to courtship.<ref name="Elizabeth Rice Allgeier 1988" /> | ||
Another point of criticism may be that love-shyness considers confidence in sexual matters as an isolated issue. Within a more general framework of human [[dominance hierarchy|dominance behavior]], the inability to court a female | Another point of criticism may be that love-shyness considers confidence in sexual matters as an isolated issue. Within a more general framework of human [[dominance hierarchy|dominance behavior]], the inability to court a female may be related to social status, e.g. social status explains 62% of the variance in copulation opportunities for men<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men.27s_social_status_accounts_for_62.25_of_the_variance_of_copulation_opportunities</ref> | ||
and likely plays a role for women too. | and likely plays a role for women too. | ||
Love-shy individuals likely often lack the required amount of social status that would admit them to confidently lead a relationship and overcome women's reluctance to have sex, and not fear shaming in case they turn out to be a failure in sexual matters. Low status may be due to any number of flaws in physical appearance ([[ugliness|beauty]], [[fatcel|overweight]]), behavior ([[autism]], [[fuckupcel|lack of competence]]) or [[NEETcel|economic standing]], based on which human dominance hierarchies are decided. This is aggravated by [[feminism|feminists]] outright shaming men who confidently and forcefully approach women and forcing them to be [[nice guy|nice]], even though | Love-shy individuals likely often lack the required amount of social status that would admit them to confidently lead a relationship and overcome women's reluctance to have sex, and not fear shaming in case they turn out to be a failure in sexual matters. | ||
Low status may be due to any number of flaws in physical appearance ([[ugliness|beauty]], [[fatcel|overweight]]), behavior ([[autism]], [[fuckupcel|lack of competence]]) or [[NEETcel|economic standing]], based on which human dominance hierarchies are decided. | |||
This is aggravated by [[feminism|feminists]] outright shaming men who confidently and forcefully approach women and forcing them to be [[nice guy|nice]], even though many women seem to prefer [[rape#Rape_fantasies|being dominated]]. A main limiting factor in men's sexual and social success may hence be attributable to a rise of social norms that hinder men in their assertion of dominance, a point that [[Jordan Peterson]] also raised. | |||
Excessive shyness may also be caused by evolutionary mismatches such as the such as the absence of arranged marriage,<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> women's unusual high-status role,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> overpopulation, or even the rise of mutations (see [[behavioral sink]]). In this view, shyness would be a [[blackpill]], i.e. nothing that the individual can simply overcome by being more [[redpill|confident]], but it is fixed behavioral adaptations that mismatch the current alienated sociocultural circumstances and thus lead to drastically reduced [[reproductive success]], even though the same adaptations may have increased reproductive success in times when quiet confidence and subordination to the collective and parental or group mate choices enabled group cohesion and functioning. | Excessive shyness may also be caused by evolutionary mismatches such as the such as the absence of [[arranged marriage]],<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> i.e. at least some of the love shy might have adaptations for their parents to be involved in their mate choices and also have weak flirting skills. Other potential evolutionary mismatches causing shyness may be women's unusual high-status role,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> stagnation, overpopulation, or even the rise of mutations (see [[behavioral sink]]). In this view, shyness would be a [[blackpill]], i.e. nothing that the individual can simply overcome by being more [[redpill|confident]], but it is fixed behavioral adaptations that mismatch the current alienated sociocultural circumstances and thus lead to drastically reduced [[reproductive success]], even though the same adaptations may have increased reproductive success in times when quiet confidence and subordination to the collective and parental or group mate choices enabled group cohesion and functioning. | ||
==Press attention== | ==Press attention== | ||
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* [https://www.love-shy.net/articles.htm Here are some articles and other informational resources LS] | * [https://www.love-shy.net/articles.htm Here are some articles and other informational resources LS] | ||
== | ==See also== | ||
* [[Nice guy]] | * [[Nice guy]] | ||
* [[Shyness]] | * [[Shyness]] | ||
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* [[Male lesbian]] | * [[Male lesbian]] | ||
* [[Simp]] | * [[Simp]] | ||
==References== | |||
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[[Category:Theories]] | [[Category:Theories]] | ||
{{Redpill}} | {{Redpill}} | ||
{{Blackpill}} | {{Blackpill}} | ||