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Marriage is extremely common in humans and can be found in nearly all cultures, even in primitive hunter-gatherers. This implies that arranged marriages have been the norm for most of our evolutionary history.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51111510_Evolutionary_History_of_Hunter-Gatherer_Marriage_Practices</ref> A certain degree of dependence of women on men is also universal, with men producing significantly more calories of food even in the most egalitarian hunter-gatheres such as the Hadza,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#In_hunter-gatherers.2C_men_use_meat_to_obtain_mating_opportunities_and_to_invest_in_mates_and_offspring</ref> and men being significantly stronger.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women</ref> What is more, [[arranged marriage]] is even more common than free mate choice with 70% of hunter-gatherer societies primarily practicing this kind of marriage (especially in the first marriage).<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> In Sri Lanka when two people show interest in each or fall in love, they usually indirectly let the other person know via parents or other relatives.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230169077_Romantic_Love_and_Sexual_Behavior_Perspectives_from_the_Social_Sciences [Lust, love, and arranged marriages in Sri Lanka.]</ref> Thus it seems that the advent of [[love shyness]] might be an evolutionary mismatch, whereby the people that do suffer from love shyness would've previously shown interest indirectly through parents are not able to/struggle with approaching directly as they are not adapted to this specific courtship behaviour. Parents also tend to care less about looks and more about status and resources in potential mates than their children, but the preferences between parents and children are still very correlated by about 0.83.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225066511_Meet_the_parents_Parent-offspring_convergence_and_divergence_in_mate_preferences</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/40729210_Parental_choice_What_parents_want_in_a_son-in-law_and_a_daughter-in-law_across_67_pre-industrial_societies</ref> This raises the question whether humans have evolved to desire to be coupled by their parents, which in turn could also explain the rise of modern [[mismatchcel|inceldom in an extremely free mating context]]. However, such adaptations are difficult to prove scientifically and may fall victim of the [[wikipedia:Naturalistic fallacy|naturalistic fallacy]]. | Marriage is extremely common in humans and can be found in nearly all cultures, even in primitive hunter-gatherers. This implies that arranged marriages have been the norm for most of our evolutionary history.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51111510_Evolutionary_History_of_Hunter-Gatherer_Marriage_Practices</ref> A certain degree of dependence of women on men is also universal, with men producing significantly more calories of food even in the most egalitarian hunter-gatheres such as the Hadza,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#In_hunter-gatherers.2C_men_use_meat_to_obtain_mating_opportunities_and_to_invest_in_mates_and_offspring</ref> and men being significantly stronger.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women</ref> What is more, [[arranged marriage]] is even more common than free mate choice with 70% of hunter-gatherer societies primarily practicing this kind of marriage (especially in the first marriage).<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> In Sri Lanka when two people show interest in each or fall in love, they usually indirectly let the other person know via parents or other relatives.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230169077_Romantic_Love_and_Sexual_Behavior_Perspectives_from_the_Social_Sciences [Lust, love, and arranged marriages in Sri Lanka.]</ref> Thus it seems that the advent of [[love shyness]] might be an evolutionary mismatch, whereby the people that do suffer from love shyness would've previously shown interest indirectly through parents are not able to/struggle with approaching directly as they are not adapted to this specific courtship behaviour. Parents also tend to care less about looks and more about status and resources in potential mates than their children, but the preferences between parents and children are still very correlated by about 0.83.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225066511_Meet_the_parents_Parent-offspring_convergence_and_divergence_in_mate_preferences</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/40729210_Parental_choice_What_parents_want_in_a_son-in-law_and_a_daughter-in-law_across_67_pre-industrial_societies</ref> This raises the question whether humans have evolved to desire to be coupled by their parents, which in turn could also explain the rise of modern [[mismatchcel|inceldom in an extremely free mating context]]. However, such adaptations are difficult to prove scientifically and may fall victim of the [[wikipedia:Naturalistic fallacy|naturalistic fallacy]]. | ||
What is, however, unnatural in modern marriage is the degree of institutionalization within large nation states. E.g. alimony, the requirement for the ex-husband to provide for the ex-wife after divorce, is such an institution. It derives from the necessity of the state to make sure everyone is taken care of. [[Free rider]]s like men that like to [[pump and dump]] careless [[foid]]s create an undesirable incidence of [[single mothers]] with neglected children which incur a substantial cost on communities. Alimony solved this problem, but [[feminism|feminist]] policy pushed things so far that we are seeing an increase in single mothers, due to emphasizing personal freedom and mate choice (resulting in an overall decline in marriage) and due to no-fault divorce making it very easy for women (and men) to divorce. Unnatural is also the indefinite length of modern marriage contracts (which used to be less formal), however no-fault divorce has already largely resolved that. Unnatural may also be the close dyadic cohabitation of husband and wife, with historical societies having had a much stricter gender segregation to the point (see [[female subordination]]). There is evidence that women lose their sex drive sooner in the close cohabitation setting, but not when living apart, which may be an indication of an [[evolutionary mismatch]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> | What is, however, unnatural in modern marriage is the degree of institutionalization within large nation states. E.g. alimony, the requirement for the ex-husband to provide for the ex-wife after divorce, is such an institution. It derives from the necessity of the state to make sure everyone is taken care of. [[Free rider]]s like men that like to [[pump and dump]] careless [[foid]]s create an undesirable incidence of [[single mothers]] with neglected children which incur a substantial cost on communities. Alimony solved this problem, but [[feminism|feminist]] policy pushed things so far that we are seeing an increase in single mothers, due to emphasizing personal freedom and mate choice (resulting in an overall decline in marriage) and due to no-fault divorce making it very easy for women (and men) to divorce. Unnatural is also the indefinite length of modern marriage contracts (which used to be less formal), however no-fault divorce has already largely resolved that. Unnatural may also be the close dyadic cohabitation of husband and wife, with historical societies having had a much stricter gender segregation to the point (see [[female subordination]]). There is evidence that women lose their sex drive sooner in the close cohabitation setting, but not when living apart, which may be an indication of an [[evolutionary mismatch]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> Couples who marry following prior cohabitation also face a slightly higher divorce risk.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258150996_The_Relationship_Between_Intelligence_and_Divorce</ref> | ||
==Divorce== | ==Divorce== | ||