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==Marriage and human nature== | ==Marriage and human nature== | ||
Marriage is extremely common in humans and can be found in nearly all cultures, even in primitive hunter-gatherers. A certain degree of dependence of women on men, is also universal, with men producing significantly more calories of food even in the most egalitarian hunter-gatheres such as the Hadza,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#In_hunter-gatherers.2C_men_use_meat_to_obtain_mating_opportunities_and_to_invest_in_mates_and_offspring</ref> and men being significantly stronger.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women</ref> What is more, [[arranged marriage]] is even more common than free mate choice with 70% of hunter-gatherer societies primarily practicing this kind of marriage (especially in the first marriage).<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> This raises the question whether humans have evolved to desire to be coupled by their parents, which in turn could also explain the rise of modern [[mismatchcel|inceldom in an extremely free mating context]]. However, such adaptations are difficult to prove scientifically and may fall victim of the [[wikipedia:Naturalistic fallacy|naturalistic fallacy]]. | Marriage is extremely common in humans and can be found in nearly all cultures, even in primitive hunter-gatherers; this implies that arranged marriages have been the norm for most of our evolutionary history.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51111510_Evolutionary_History_of_Hunter-Gatherer_Marriage_Practices</ref> A certain degree of dependence of women on men, is also universal, with men producing significantly more calories of food even in the most egalitarian hunter-gatheres such as the Hadza,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#In_hunter-gatherers.2C_men_use_meat_to_obtain_mating_opportunities_and_to_invest_in_mates_and_offspring</ref> and men being significantly stronger.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women</ref> What is more, [[arranged marriage]] is even more common than free mate choice with 70% of hunter-gatherer societies primarily practicing this kind of marriage (especially in the first marriage).<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> In Sri Lanka when two people show interest in each or fall in love, they usually indirectly let the other person know via parents or other relatives.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230169077_Romantic_Love_and_Sexual_Behavior_Perspectives_from_the_Social_Sciences [Lust, love, and arranged marriages in Sri Lanka.]</ref> Thus it seems that the advent of love shyness might be an evolutionary mismatch, whereby the people that do suffer from love shyness would've previously shown interest indirectly through parents are not able to/struggle with approaching directly as they are not adapted to this specific courtship behaviour. Parents also tend to care less about looks and more about status and resources in potential mates than their children but are still very correlated by about 0.83; maybe mother does know best?<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225066511_Meet_the_parents_Parent-offspring_convergence_and_divergence_in_mate_preferences?_sg=ZXw3yNGJfkUg0P-etOGucAf4pfoCiw4m_6mzd2LguNtq53y0NQKjgSw6bR9AJ9R0lwisUw86-4QEG0k</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/40729210_Parental_choice_What_parents_want_in_a_son-in-law_and_a_daughter-in-law_across_67_pre-industrial_societies</ref> This raises the question whether humans have evolved to desire to be coupled by their parents, which in turn could also explain the rise of modern [[mismatchcel|inceldom in an extremely free mating context]]. However, such adaptations are difficult to prove scientifically and may fall victim of the [[wikipedia:Naturalistic fallacy|naturalistic fallacy]]. | ||
What is, however, unnatural in modern marriage is the degree of institutionalization within large nation states. E.g. alimony, the requirement for the ex-husband to provide for the ex-wife after divorce, is such an institution. It derives from the necessity of the state to make sure everyone is taken care of. [[Free rider]]s like men that like to [[pump and dump]] careless [[foid]]s create an undesirable incidence of [[single mothers]] with neglected children which incur a substantial cost on communities. Alimony solved this problem, but [[feminism|feminist]] policy pushed things so far that we are seeing an increase in single mothers, due to emphasizing personal freedom and mate choice (resulting in an overall decline in marriage) and due to no-fault divorce making it very easy for women (and men) to divorce. Unnatural is also the indefinite length of modern marriage contracts (which used to be less formal), however no-fault divorce has already largely resolved that. Unnatural may also be the close dyadic cohabitation of husband and wife, with historical societies having had a much stricter gender segregation to the point (see [[female subordination]]). There is evidence that women lose their sex drive sooner in the close cohabitation setting, but not when living apart, which may be an indication of an [[evolutionary mismatch]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> | What is, however, unnatural in modern marriage is the degree of institutionalization within large nation states. E.g. alimony, the requirement for the ex-husband to provide for the ex-wife after divorce, is such an institution. It derives from the necessity of the state to make sure everyone is taken care of. [[Free rider]]s like men that like to [[pump and dump]] careless [[foid]]s create an undesirable incidence of [[single mothers]] with neglected children which incur a substantial cost on communities. Alimony solved this problem, but [[feminism|feminist]] policy pushed things so far that we are seeing an increase in single mothers, due to emphasizing personal freedom and mate choice (resulting in an overall decline in marriage) and due to no-fault divorce making it very easy for women (and men) to divorce. Unnatural is also the indefinite length of modern marriage contracts (which used to be less formal), however no-fault divorce has already largely resolved that. Unnatural may also be the close dyadic cohabitation of husband and wife, with historical societies having had a much stricter gender segregation to the point (see [[female subordination]]). There is evidence that women lose their sex drive sooner in the close cohabitation setting, but not when living apart, which may be an indication of an [[evolutionary mismatch]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> | ||
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In the U.S., women initiate 69% of the divorces explicitly, and maybe even more implicitly.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_initiate_69.25_of_divorces</ref> Your tax dollars then go toward subsidies for single motherhood, and often the state makes the dad pay the woman after she divorces him. The process of women marrying men, and then divorcing him for no good reason and collecting child support/alimony is also known as [[divorce rape]]. [[Femoids|Women]] often say this is justified as [[boomer]] men cheat about 5% more than [[boomer]] women, but with the rise of female [[hypergamy]], [[Tinder]], other online dating, and social media, younger married women of the millennial generation are cheating more than men.<ref>https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/a38dwj/monogamy-may-be-even-more-difficult-for-women-than-it-is-for-men?Utm_source=tonictwitterus</ref> | In the U.S., women initiate 69% of the divorces explicitly, and maybe even more implicitly.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_initiate_69.25_of_divorces</ref> Your tax dollars then go toward subsidies for single motherhood, and often the state makes the dad pay the woman after she divorces him. The process of women marrying men, and then divorcing him for no good reason and collecting child support/alimony is also known as [[divorce rape]]. [[Femoids|Women]] often say this is justified as [[boomer]] men cheat about 5% more than [[boomer]] women, but with the rise of female [[hypergamy]], [[Tinder]], other online dating, and social media, younger married women of the millennial generation are cheating more than men.<ref>https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/a38dwj/monogamy-may-be-even-more-difficult-for-women-than-it-is-for-men?Utm_source=tonictwitterus</ref> | ||
Many like to make bring up the statistic that 50% of divorces end in divorce as evidence that humans (and in particular women as they iniate them) are not meant to practise monogamy, however amongst first marriages only 35% of marriages end in divorce.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11203353_Cohabitation_Marriage_Divorce_and_Remarriage_in_the_United_States</ref><ref>https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/marriages-civil-unions-and-divorces-year-ended-december-2017</ref><ref>https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/people-and-communities/marriages-and-divorces-australia/latest-release</ref> The reason why the divorce rate taken as a whole comes out at 50% is because a minority of r-strategists whom continuosly divorce and remary which means that the rate increases as a result. The bulk of divorces mostly occur at the 4th year of marriage (this is usually the age at which most fist borns begin to become more autonomous) and this corrosponds with the idea that r-strategists will begin to typically divorce their husbands when they've outlived their usefullness. Secondly, number of pre-marital sex partners also influences rate of divorce.<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/</ref> | |||
If a women has 0 premarital sex partners (approximately 5% of women) after 5 years theres a 5% chance of her marriage ending in divorce. If she has a single premarital partner, most likely her husband, there's a 20% chance of divorce (approximately 22% of women)<ref name=":0">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad362.pdf pg. 29 table 11</ref>. Any more than that will increase the divorce rate to about 25%, with women who have 10+ partners having a 33% five year divorce rate. According to the CDC, 20% women aged 40-44 have only ever had sex with a single person compared to 11% of woman of the same age who've had sex with 15 or more partners.<ref name=":0" /> | |||
Rates also differ by race. Amongst Hispanic and Latina women as a whole 45% have only either had sex with a single person or are virgins, compared to 29% of white women and 19% of black women. It's well known that both East Asians as well as South Asians are more K-selected than Whites and Blacks; it comes as a surprise that Hispanics and Latinas are also more K-selected than white or black women. Hispanics, Latin and Asian countries also have lower twinning rates than both European and African countries which is indicative of a K-strategists whom have fewer offspring but invest more.<ref>[[Penis#Ethnic differences in testes size]]</ref> When not specifiying sex, Hispanics also cheat less often at a rate of about 13% (which means the rate is lower in women) when compared to whites (16%) and blacks (22%).<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-1-in-2018-who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-infidelity-in-america</ref> | |||
==Infidelity== | ==Infidelity== | ||