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== Manosphere ==
== Manosphere ==


The idea of an overall, necessary, mostly fixed, and possibly genetic sociosexual hierarchy in humans has been mainly promoted seriously by various traditionalists such as [[Vox Day]] and [[Jordan Peterson]] and thus has had influence on the [[manosphere]] as [[tradcon]]s entered the manosphere in the 2010s.  The modern mainstream concept of a genetic, inevitable, necessary, or extremely fixed sociosexual hierarchy was also inspired by more mainstream media/literature and [[PUA|pick-up-artistry]] which was in turn inspired by scientist [[David Mech|David Mech's]] concept of an 'alpha wolf', which David later retracted.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151023133410/http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/24/my-bad-alpha-wolf-term-outmoded/</ref><ref>Scientist David Mech addresses readers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU</ref>
The idea of an overall, necessary, mostly fixed, and possibly genetic sociosexual hierarchy in humans has been mainly promoted seriously by various traditionalists such as [[Vox Day]] and [[Jordan Peterson]] and thus has had influence on the [[manosphere]] as [[Traditionalist conservatism|traditionalists]] entered the manosphere in the 2010s.  The modern mainstream concept of a genetic, inevitable, necessary, or extremely fixed sociosexual hierarchy was also inspired by more mainstream media/literature and [[PUA|pick-up-artistry]] which was in turn inspired by scientist [[David Mech|David Mech's]] concept of an 'alpha wolf', which David later retracted.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151023133410/http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/24/my-bad-alpha-wolf-term-outmoded/</ref><ref>Scientist David Mech addresses readers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU</ref>
While small hierarchies at a local level are plausibly rooted in human evolutionary past, the immensely large hierarchies of modern nation states and large cooperation are more alienated from the natural setting. While redpillers and dating coaches etc. focus on dominance signaling at the local scale, Jordan Peterson attempts to justify the hierarchy for entire nation states, e.g. by the overall incentive structure it provides.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF-bXNQ4wzs</ref>
While small hierarchies at a local level are plausibly rooted in human evolutionary past, the immensely large hierarchies of modern nation states and large cooperation are more alienated from the natural setting. While redpillers and dating coaches etc. focus on dominance signaling at the local scale, Jordan Peterson attempts to justify the hierarchy for entire nation states, e.g. by the overall incentive structure it provides.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF-bXNQ4wzs</ref>


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