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== Limitations == | == Limitations == | ||
=== Nice guys === | |||
As evidenced by the failure of [[nice guy]]s and women's literary interest in [[rape]]y romance novels,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_drawn_more_than_men_to_nonfiction_stories_of_rape.2C_murder.2C_and_serial_killers</ref> romance is not enough unless the guy is [[sexy son hypothesis|good looking]]. Rather, woman's mating preferences are only fully met when romance is accompanied by a demonstration of physical dominance, which women report, primarily lies merely in the threat rather than actual harm, and involves the female ''taming'' the man. (On the other hand, women do have actual [[rape]] fantasies, so it is not clear to which extent the latter is actual preference or just [[political correctness]].) | As evidenced by the failure of [[nice guy]]s and women's literary interest in [[rape]]y romance novels,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_drawn_more_than_men_to_nonfiction_stories_of_rape.2C_murder.2C_and_serial_killers</ref> romance is not enough unless the guy is [[sexy son hypothesis|good looking]]. Rather, woman's mating preferences are only fully met when romance is accompanied by a demonstration of physical dominance, which women report, primarily lies merely in the threat rather than actual harm, and involves the female ''taming'' the man. (On the other hand, women do have actual [[rape]] fantasies, so it is not clear to which extent the latter is actual preference or just [[political correctness]].) | ||
Some [[social constructionism|social constructionist]] scientists have claimed romance would be a social construct, but in cross-cultural studies by ethnologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt, he found [[courtship|flirting]] and female coyness to be prevalent and pretty much the same across the world.<ref name="eibl">Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref> | Some [[social constructionism|social constructionist]] scientists have claimed romance would be a social construct, but in cross-cultural studies by ethnologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt, he found [[courtship|flirting]] and female coyness to be prevalent and pretty much the same across the world.<ref name="eibl">Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref> | ||
=== Personality === | |||
Research on [[blind dating]] and semi-blind dating suggest during initial pair-bonding personality traits do not play any role,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_speed_dating</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_video_dating</ref><ref name="walster">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref> so what is called "romance" probably mostly boils down to the female [[Sex drive#Female_passivity|passively accumulating information]] in terms of [[LMS|looks, money and status]] about the suitor, and any additional courtship efforts are mere costly signals of investment and [[virtue signaling]]/[[political correctness]] as mentioned above or means of intimidating other suitors, i.e. gaining status. | |||
==History== | ==History== | ||