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and the less likely they would prefer a condom,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_less_likely_to_use_a_condom_with_a_more_attractive_male_partner</ref> providing evidence for the [[sexy son hypothesis]].
and the less likely they would prefer a condom,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_less_likely_to_use_a_condom_with_a_more_attractive_male_partner</ref> providing evidence for the [[sexy son hypothesis]].


'''Why women are seen as less shallow'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Why women are seen as less shallow'''</span>


The misconception that women would not care about looks may stem from [[political correctness]] as the Norwegian sexologist [[Kristin Spitznogle]] suggested. It may also stem from the ''[[women-are-wonderful effect]]''<ref name="ref92">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> in that people are less likely to ascribe negative attributes such as shallowness to women. Or it may result from the fact that [[Scientific Blackpill#|men prefer young and fertile women]] and youth is associated with beauty.  
The misconception that women would not care about looks may stem from [[political correctness]] as the Norwegian sexologist [[Kristin Spitznogle]] suggested. It may also stem from the ''[[women-are-wonderful effect]]''<ref name="ref92">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> in that people are less likely to ascribe negative attributes such as shallowness to women. Or it may result from the fact that [[Scientific Blackpill#|men prefer young and fertile women]] and youth is associated with beauty.  
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[[Feminism|Feminists]] may construe women's excessive [[intrasexual competition]] in looks as imposed by the patriarchy as a result of men strongly caring about looks, when in truth both men and women care about looks,<ref name="ref8020">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref> but women have an extra incentive to conspicuously advertise themselves in order to attract high status men, having a more [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive sexuality]] all around. This may also explain women's harsher ratings resulting from an intuition to avoid initiating romance and giving men complements.<ref name="ref8020"></ref> Initiation would make it more difficult to reject a male as the initiator bears more responsibility.
[[Feminism|Feminists]] may construe women's excessive [[intrasexual competition]] in looks as imposed by the patriarchy as a result of men strongly caring about looks, when in truth both men and women care about looks,<ref name="ref8020">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref> but women have an extra incentive to conspicuously advertise themselves in order to attract high status men, having a more [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive sexuality]] all around. This may also explain women's harsher ratings resulting from an intuition to avoid initiating romance and giving men complements.<ref name="ref8020"></ref> Initiation would make it more difficult to reject a male as the initiator bears more responsibility.


'''It may not be ''all'' about looks'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''It may not be ''all'' about looks'''</span>


That being said about the importance of looks, there exists some anecdotal evidence that many incels are not particularly ugly, with some even being physically attractive. There may be a selection bias here insofar as only the better looking incels are expected to expose themself to public scrutiny by posting images of themselves on the internet.<ref name="ref159">https://incels.wiki/w/Demographics_of_inceldom#Germany</ref> Looks do not seem to matter as much as many incels claim (e.g. unattractiveness only lowers the chances of marriage for ugly men by 15%), but they do matter to some extent and good looks make life easier and open doors.
That being said about the importance of looks, there exists some anecdotal evidence that many incels are not particularly ugly, with some even being physically attractive. There may be a selection bias here insofar as only the better looking incels are expected to expose themself to public scrutiny by posting images of themselves on the internet.<ref name="ref159">https://incels.wiki/w/Demographics_of_inceldom#Germany</ref> Looks do not seem to matter as much as many incels claim (e.g. unattractiveness only lowers the chances of marriage for ugly men by 15%), but they do matter to some extent and good looks make life easier and open doors.
In a study of Reddit users answering why they are single (not necessarily incels) on AskReddit, most answered they were physically unattractive, with about half as many mentioning obesity (see [[causes of inceldom]]).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s40806-018-0163-7</ref> Looks were also after shyness (i.e. [[dominance hierarchy|low status]]), mentioned as the second common barrier in the [[Donnelly study]] with 47% of virgins and 56% of singles mentioning this factor, compared to only 9% of partnered people, however with a small sample size.
In a study of Reddit users answering why they are single (not necessarily incels) on AskReddit, most answered they were physically unattractive, with about half as many mentioning obesity (see [[causes of inceldom]]).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s40806-018-0163-7</ref> Looks were also after shyness (i.e. [[dominance hierarchy|low status]]), mentioned as the second common barrier in the [[Donnelly study]] with 47% of virgins and 56% of singles mentioning this factor, compared to only 9% of partnered people, however with a small sample size.


'''Matching hypothesis'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Matching hypothesis'''</span>


The matching hypothesis states that people naturally prefer potential partners who are about as attractive as themselves. However, the Walster's famous computer dating study suggested otherwise, namely that only the looks of the potential partner predicts romantic interest, not how similar they are in looks.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8jqzp5/explaining_looksmatchism_among_the_average_most/</ref> Data from online dating suggests that men and women alike aim a bit higher than their own desirability, with few aiming excessively high.<ref>https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf</ref> This may imply that without enforced monogamy, both men and women will lack pressure to settle for the "art of the possible," thus people remain single. This may be evidence of [[Fisherian runaway|exaggerated preferences]] for ornament adversely affecting fitness.
The matching hypothesis states that people naturally prefer potential partners who are about as attractive as themselves. However, the Walster's famous computer dating study suggested otherwise, namely that only the looks of the potential partner predicts romantic interest, not how similar they are in looks.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8jqzp5/explaining_looksmatchism_among_the_average_most/</ref> Data from online dating suggests that men and women alike aim a bit higher than their own desirability, with few aiming excessively high.<ref>https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf</ref> This may imply that without enforced monogamy, both men and women will lack pressure to settle for the "art of the possible," thus people remain single. This may be evidence of [[Fisherian runaway|exaggerated preferences]] for ornament adversely affecting fitness.
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[[File:Messages OkCupid.png|right|thumb|400x400px|On OkCupid, women receive 8 times as many messages per week as men even though the sex ratio is even and men in online dating are not uglier than elsewhere (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
[[File:Messages OkCupid.png|right|thumb|400x400px|On OkCupid, women receive 8 times as many messages per week as men even though the sex ratio is even and men in online dating are not uglier than elsewhere (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
'''Choosiness and passivity'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Choosiness and passivity'''</span>


{{main_articles|[[Sex drive#Initiation_and_female_passivity|Female passivity]], [[courtship]] and [[hypergamy]]}}
{{main_articles|[[Sex drive#Initiation_and_female_passivity|Female passivity]], [[courtship]] and [[hypergamy]]}}
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This makes women extra choosy as the man not only needs to be attractive, but also a good provider.
This makes women extra choosy as the man not only needs to be attractive, but also a good provider.


'''Principle of least interest'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Principle of least interest'''</span>


As a result of being more choosy, women having much more options to choose from as there are overall more men desiring women than vice-versa.<ref>Baumeister, R.F. and Tice, D.M., 2001. The social dimension of sex. Allyn & Bacon.</ref>
As a result of being more choosy, women having much more options to choose from as there are overall more men desiring women than vice-versa.<ref>Baumeister, R.F. and Tice, D.M., 2001. The social dimension of sex. Allyn & Bacon.</ref>
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Making compromises means dating down, so women get to ''date up'' ([[hypergamy]]).<ref name="ref136">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X</ref><ref>https://d-nb.info/997448148/34</ref>
Making compromises means dating down, so women get to ''date up'' ([[hypergamy]]).<ref name="ref136">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X</ref><ref>https://d-nb.info/997448148/34</ref>


'''Bodyguard hypothesis and polygamy'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Bodyguard hypothesis and polygamy'''</span>


{{main_article|[[Bodyguard hypothesis]]}}
{{main_article|[[Bodyguard hypothesis]]}}
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Women prefer partnered men over single men which may be related to women's preference for high status, but may also be an adaption of women living in [[polygyny|harems]].<ref>http://digital.library.okstate.edu/etd/umi-okstate-2649.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103109001048</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1660608/</ref> Men do not show such preferences.
Women prefer partnered men over single men which may be related to women's preference for high status, but may also be an adaption of women living in [[polygyny|harems]].<ref>http://digital.library.okstate.edu/etd/umi-okstate-2649.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103109001048</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1660608/</ref> Men do not show such preferences.


'''Women love high status men'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Women love high status men'''</span>


Women's preference for high status men ties into the [[Human dominance hierarchies|hierarchical organization in humans]].
Women's preference for high status men ties into the [[Human dominance hierarchies|hierarchical organization in humans]].
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Women's sexual market value is, on the other hand, rather determined by their looks and their reputation of faithfulness (things that men desire).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2018.03.011</ref>
Women's sexual market value is, on the other hand, rather determined by their looks and their reputation of faithfulness (things that men desire).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2018.03.011</ref>


'''A rise of female hypergamy'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''A rise of female hypergamy'''</span>


There is evidence that hypergamy has intensified in the recent years. The top 5-20% of men (i.e. "[[Chad|Chads]]") are now having more sex than before the sexual revolution.<ref>Harper CR, Dittus PJ, Leichliter JS, Aral, SO. Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: February 2017 - Volume 44 - Issue 2 - p 96–100. doi: 10.1097/OLQ.0000000000000554</ref><ref>https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2017/02000/Changes_in_the_Distribution_of_Sex_Partners_in_the.5.aspx</ref>  
There is evidence that hypergamy has intensified in the recent years. The top 5-20% of men (i.e. "[[Chad|Chads]]") are now having more sex than before the sexual revolution.<ref>Harper CR, Dittus PJ, Leichliter JS, Aral, SO. Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: February 2017 - Volume 44 - Issue 2 - p 96–100. doi: 10.1097/OLQ.0000000000000554</ref><ref>https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2017/02000/Changes_in_the_Distribution_of_Sex_Partners_in_the.5.aspx</ref>  
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The more men date down, and the more partners are available e.g. through online dating and social networks, the choosier women become as they can choose from more options leading them to wait for the perceived opportunity for a partner of very high mate value. This results in men dating down even more out of frustration, possibly aggravating the situation and forming a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback_loop positive feedback loop] in male sexual frustration and female choosiness.<ref name="ref169">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601909/how-tinder-feedback-loop-forces-men-and-women-into-extreme-strategies/</ref>
The more men date down, and the more partners are available e.g. through online dating and social networks, the choosier women become as they can choose from more options leading them to wait for the perceived opportunity for a partner of very high mate value. This results in men dating down even more out of frustration, possibly aggravating the situation and forming a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback_loop positive feedback loop] in male sexual frustration and female choosiness.<ref name="ref169">https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601909/how-tinder-feedback-loop-forces-men-and-women-into-extreme-strategies/</ref>


'''Female fickleness'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Female fickleness'''</span>


Women get bored with relationships and sex much sooner than men<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref>
Women get bored with relationships and sex much sooner than men<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref>
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and have been in the U.S. at least since year 1862.<ref>http://www.web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf</ref>
and have been in the U.S. at least since year 1862.<ref>http://www.web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf</ref>


'''Women's love style'''
<span style="font-size:125%">'''Women's love style'''</span>


In summary, women's hypergamous love style is more opportunistic and transactional than men's, driven by a hardwired expectation to be provided for. Women are loved nearly unconditionally, men are not.
In summary, women's hypergamous love style is more opportunistic and transactional than men's, driven by a hardwired expectation to be provided for. Women are loved nearly unconditionally, men are not.
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