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| Due to men's [[libido|abundance of sexual demand]] of men, however, even post-wall women can still remain entirely [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] and find many suitors nonetheless and average men are desired less, so the entire concept for the wall is largely a [[cope]]. | | Due to men's [[libido|abundance of sexual demand]] of men, however, even post-wall women can still remain entirely [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] and find many suitors nonetheless and average men are desired less, so the entire concept for the wall is largely a [[cope]]. |
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| === Exciting life history ===
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| Notably, very old men that were neither rich nor good looking, have still been able to [[reproductive success|reproduce]] simply by having an exciting life history. These men are always famous/infamous/prolific/extraordinary in some attractive way other than looks or money, and age seems to multiply the attractiveness of said attractive trait. For example, the infamous Aleister Crowley went bankrupt and had been spending three times his income for several years by the age of 60. Aleister went to court for his debts and there told his life story. Deidre Patricia Doherty was at the hearing and despite Aleister being 60 years old, and beyond flat broke, flat out told Aleister she wanted to have his baby. Aleister agreed and in May 1937 their son Randall Gair, whom Crowley nicknamed Aleister Atatürk was born.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley#Berlin_and_London:_1930%E2%80%931938</ref>
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| Also Yoshie Shiratori was an infamous wrongly convicted criminal, whom escaped from prison 4 consecutive times. Later after actually serving out the full sentence of his 5th prison stint, Yoshie despite being poor and working odd jobs in 1971, at the age of 64, Yoshie met an unnamed woman and they had one son together.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshie_Shiratori</ref>
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| An exceptional life history and long list of accomplishments outside of looks and or money does equate to status, and is clearly super stimuli to women's brains. Basically [[its over]] for any incel that is not extraordinary in some way shape or form other than looks or income, however a financially poor, ugly incel with some other talent(s) like creativity, ingenuity, hi [[IQ]] etc. May be [[Lay down and rot|giving up too soon.]]
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| == Incels vs MGTOWs == | | == Incels vs MGTOWs == |