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Critelli & Bivona (2008) further suggest that “the display of male dominance may function as a way for females to assess genetic quality and the ability to protect” ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]). Much of female nastiness, tantrums and childlike testing of boundaries may be driven by a wish to be met with violent containment as an adaption to test the male. | Critelli & Bivona (2008) further suggest that “the display of male dominance may function as a way for females to assess genetic quality and the ability to protect” ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]). Much of female nastiness, tantrums and childlike testing of boundaries may be driven by a wish to be met with violent containment as an adaption to test the male. | ||
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'''Anti-cuckoldry''': An additional explanation is that men, | '''Anti-cuckoldry''': An additional explanation is that men, in their natural role as provider,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> do not want to waste their resources on another man's offspring, so they have a strong preference for exclusive sexual access to their woman as a measure to avoid being [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]]. Not just men have this preference, but men's mothers and their entire families that may invest their family wealth in the offspring as well,<ref>https://quillette.com/2018/11/25/on-the-nature-of-patriarchy/</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730363X</ref> who were usually heavily involved in partner choices.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918305348</ref> Such behavior by relatives can plausibly also be adaptive by [[kin selection]]. Women being chosen based on their faithfulness is thought to fuel female intrasexual competition by gossip and accusations of sluttiness, also explaining how, historically, females have massively contributed to restraining one another's sexuality.<ref>http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103117304195</ref> This should imply women have been selected to be obedient, agreeable, childlike and weak, i.e. easily controllable like a child. This could also explain men's attraction to underage, fertile girls/women ([[hebephilia]]) which is a quite [[Scientific Blackpill#tocAge|prevalent]] sexual desire among men. Patricia Gowaty (1992, p. 231-40) writes in "Feminism and Evolutionary Biology": | ||
{{quote|There should be strong selection on males to control females' reproduction through direct coercive control of females […]. Evolutionary thinkers, whether informed by feminist ideas or not, are not surprised by one of the overwhelming facts of patriarchal cultures, namely that men […] seek to constrain and control the reproductive capacities of women […]. Juvenilization decreases the threat some men may feel when confronted with women; many men are comfortable around women whom they can clearly dominate and are profoundly uncomfortable around women whom they cannot so clearly dominate.<ref>https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1601&context=fchd_facpub</ref>}} | {{quote|There should be strong selection on males to control females' reproduction through direct coercive control of females […]. Evolutionary thinkers, whether informed by feminist ideas or not, are not surprised by one of the overwhelming facts of patriarchal cultures, namely that men […] seek to constrain and control the reproductive capacities of women […]. Juvenilization decreases the threat some men may feel when confronted with women; many men are comfortable around women whom they can clearly dominate and are profoundly uncomfortable around women whom they cannot so clearly dominate.<ref>https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1601&context=fchd_facpub</ref>}} | ||
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'''Child care specialization''': Another explanation could be (like [[Schopenhauer]] claimed) that women are childlike and subordinative because women are adapted to take care of young children, so they are more similar to them psychologically and this helps them relate to them. | '''Child care specialization''': Another explanation could be (like [[Schopenhauer]] claimed) that women are childlike and subordinative because women are adapted to take care of young children, so they are more similar to them psychologically and this helps them relate to them. | ||
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'''Testing of men''': Simulating childish behavior may also test for the man's ability to contain the tantrums of a child and | '''Testing of men''': Simulating childish behavior may also test for the man's ability to contain the tantrums of a child and socialize it well. | ||
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'''Solipsism as reason for containment''': Furthermore, being [[neoteny|neotenous]] and prone to cry like children, nobody likes to correct women, so they develop severe [[solipsism]], insanity and unbearable nastiness, hence people prefer to keep their behaviors tightly constrained. | '''Solipsism as reason for containment''': Furthermore, being [[neoteny|neotenous]] and prone to cry like children, nobody likes to correct women, so they develop severe [[solipsism]], insanity and unbearable nastiness, hence people prefer to keep their behaviors tightly constrained. Islamic scholars and imams, often talk about female insanity and throughout human history intellectuals all over the world have reported of insufferable female behavior, e.g. [[Otto Weininger]] summarized femininity as "vapid horniness" (see [[timeless quotes on women]]). | ||
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'''Sexual selection''': Selection for submissive women has plausibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhance the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref> | '''Sexual selection''': Selection for submissive women has plausibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhance the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref> | ||
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* '''Middle East''': Purdah is a very salient contemporary example of female subordination, referring to the practice in certain Muslim and Hindu societies of screening women from men or strangers, especially by means of a headscarf, curtain or veil. | * '''Middle East''': Purdah is a very salient contemporary example of female subordination, referring to the practice in certain Muslim and Hindu societies of screening women from men or strangers, especially by means of a headscarf, curtain or veil. | ||
* '''Chinese foot binding''' was a painful practice that significantly and permanently limited the mobility of women. By the 19th century, 40–50% of all Chinese women may have had bound feet, almost 100% among upper-class Chinese women.<ref>https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810000279</ref> | * '''Chinese foot binding''' was a painful practice that significantly and permanently limited the mobility of women. By the 19th century, 40–50% of all Chinese women may have had bound feet, almost 100% among upper-class Chinese women.<ref>https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8966942</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810000279</ref> | ||
* '''The ancient Greeks''' kept | * '''The ancient Greeks''' kept heir women locked up 24/7 (apart from the more feminist Spartans). | ||
== Tantrums, shit tests and nastiness == | == Tantrums, shit tests and nastiness == | ||
Much of female behavior appears to be in line with a desire to be subordinated, if necessary by force. | Much of female behavior appears to be in line with a desire to be subordinated, if necessary by force. | ||
For example, women are more likely than men to initiate intimate partner violence<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#More_adult_men_are_victims_of_intimate_partner_physical_violence_than_women</ref> which may be related to an innate desire to provoke | For example, women are more likely than men to initiate intimate partner violence<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#More_adult_men_are_victims_of_intimate_partner_physical_violence_than_women</ref> which may be related to an innate desire to provoke a reaction from the male. | ||
In the [[manosphere]] it has often been suggested that [[feminism]] has the character of a shit test, essentially | In the [[manosphere]] it has often been suggested that [[feminism]] has the character of a shit test, essentially expecting to be restrained in response to their more provocative claims. | ||
Many in the [[manosphere]], including [[Jordan Peterson]] suggested feminist women subconsciously like [[Islam]] due to the way it subordinates | Many in the [[manosphere]], including [[Jordan Peterson]] suggested feminist women subconsciously like [[Islam]] due to the way it subordinates women. | ||
More evidence of this behavior to be hard wired is that even emancipated women display the same amount of masochism, if not even slightly more.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Even_feminist_women_are_just_as_likely_to_have_fantasies_of_forced_sex_as_are_other_women</ref> | More evidence of this behavior to be hard wired is that even emancipated women display the same amount of masochism, if not even slightly more.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Even_feminist_women_are_just_as_likely_to_have_fantasies_of_forced_sex_as_are_other_women</ref> | ||