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== Causes ==
== Causes ==


Anthropologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt suggested the tendency for women to submit to dominant men may a remnant of ancient adaptations in which pair formation only succeeds when the male is able to dominate the female and overcome her coy reluctance. This male dominate/female surrender pattern can be observed in fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals.<ref>Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref>
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'''Male dominance/female surrender''': Anthropologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt suggested the tendency for women to submit to dominant men may a remnant of ancient adaptations in which pair formation only succeeds when the male is able to dominate the female and overcome her coy reluctance. This male dominate/female surrender pattern can be observed in fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals.<ref>Eibl-Eibesfeldt I. 1989. ''Pair Formation, Courtship, Sexual Love.'' In: ''Human Ethology.'' Rougtledge. [[https://books.google.com/books?id=-CExDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT6&ots=KctjD7Zprm&dq=Pair%20Formation%2C%20Courtship%2C%20Sexual%20Love&pg=PT335#v=onepage&q=Pair%20Formation,%20Courtship,%20Sexual%20Love&f=false Excerpt]]</ref>
In many species, including humans, the greater [[Bateman's principle|parental investment]] on part of females causes females to be coy and males to engage in contest competitions over reproductive opportunities.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men.27s_social_status_accounts_for_62.25_of_the_variance_of_copulation_opportunities</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Among_male_university_students.2C_only_cues_of_physical_dominance_over_other_men_predicted_their_mating_success</ref>
In many species, including humans, the greater [[Bateman's principle|parental investment]] on part of females causes females to be coy and males to engage in contest competitions over reproductive opportunities.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men.27s_social_status_accounts_for_62.25_of_the_variance_of_copulation_opportunities</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Among_male_university_students.2C_only_cues_of_physical_dominance_over_other_men_predicted_their_mating_success</ref>
A result is that males evolve to be taller and stronger in an evolutionary arms race.
A result is that males evolve to be taller and stronger in an evolutionary arms race.
Critelli & Bivona (2008) further suggest that “the display of male dominance may function as a way for females to assess genetic quality and the ability to protect” ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]).
Critelli & Bivona (2008) further suggest that “the display of male dominance may function as a way for females to assess genetic quality and the ability to protect” ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]).
 
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An additional explanation is that men, as their natural role as provider,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> do not want to waste their resources on another man's offspring, so they have a strong preference for exclusive sexual access to their woman as a measure to avoid being [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]]. Not just men have this preference, but men's mothers and their entire families that may invest their family wealth in the offspring as well,<ref>https://quillette.com/2018/11/25/on-the-nature-of-patriarchy/</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730363X</ref> who were usually heavily involved in partner choices.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918305348</ref> Such behavior by relatives can plausibly also be adaptive by kin selection. Women being chosen based on their faithfulness is thought to fuel female intrasexual competition by gossip and accusations of sluttiness, also explaining how, historically, females have massively contributed to restraining one another's sexuality.<ref>http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103117304195</ref> This should imply women have been selected to be obedient, agreeable, childlike and weak, i.e. easily controllable like a child. This could also explain men's attraction to underage, post-pubertal, fertile girls/women ([[hebephilia]]) which is quite [[Scientific Blackpill#tocAge|prevalent]] sexual desire among men. Gowaty (1992:231-40) writes:
'''Anti-cuckoldry''': An additional explanation is that men, as their natural role as provider,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> do not want to waste their resources on another man's offspring, so they have a strong preference for exclusive sexual access to their woman as a measure to avoid being [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]]. Not just men have this preference, but men's mothers and their entire families that may invest their family wealth in the offspring as well,<ref>https://quillette.com/2018/11/25/on-the-nature-of-patriarchy/</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730363X</ref> who were usually heavily involved in partner choices.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918305348</ref> Such behavior by relatives can plausibly also be adaptive by kin selection. Women being chosen based on their faithfulness is thought to fuel female intrasexual competition by gossip and accusations of sluttiness, also explaining how, historically, females have massively contributed to restraining one another's sexuality.<ref>http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103117304195</ref> This should imply women have been selected to be obedient, agreeable, childlike and weak, i.e. easily controllable like a child. This could also explain men's attraction to underage, post-pubertal, fertile girls/women ([[hebephilia]]) which is quite [[Scientific Blackpill#tocAge|prevalent]] sexual desire among men. Gowaty (1992:231-40) writes:
 
{{quote|There should be strong selection on males to control females' reproduction through direct coercive control of females […]. Evolutionary thinkers, whether informed by feminist ideas or not, are not surprised by one of the overwhelming facts of patriarchal cultures, namely that men […] seek to constrain and control the reproductive capacities of women […]. Juvenilization decreases the threat some men may feel when confronted with women; many men are comfortable around women whom they can clearly dominate and are profoundly uncomfortable around women whom they cannot so clearly dominate.<ref>https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1601&context=fchd_facpub</ref>}}
{{quote|There should be strong selection on males to control females' reproduction through direct coercive control of females […]. Evolutionary thinkers, whether informed by feminist ideas or not, are not surprised by one of the overwhelming facts of patriarchal cultures, namely that men […] seek to constrain and control the reproductive capacities of women […]. Juvenilization decreases the threat some men may feel when confronted with women; many men are comfortable around women whom they can clearly dominate and are profoundly uncomfortable around women whom they cannot so clearly dominate.<ref>https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1601&context=fchd_facpub</ref>}}
 
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Another explanation could be (like [[Schopenhauer]] claimed) that women are childlike and subordinative because women are adapted to take care of young children, so they are more similar to them psychologically and this helps them relate to them.
'''Child care specialization''': Another explanation could be (like [[Schopenhauer]] claimed) that women are childlike and subordinative because women are adapted to take care of young children, so they are more similar to them psychologically and this helps them relate to them.
Simulating childish behavior may also test for the man's ability to contain the tantrums of a child and socialized it well.
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Furthermore, being [[neoteny|neotenous]] and prone to cry like children, nobody likes to correct women, so they develop severe [[solipsism]], insanity and unbearable nastiness, hence people prefer to keep their behaviors tightly constrained. Islamistic scholars and imams, often talk about female insanity and throughout human history intellectuals all over the world have reported of insufferable female behavior, e.g. [[Otto Weininger]] summarized femininity as "vapid horniness" despite womens lower [[sex drive]] (see [[timeless quotes on women]]).
'''Testing of men''': Simulating childish behavior may also test for the man's ability to contain the tantrums of a child and socialized it well.
 
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Selection for submissive women has plausibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhance the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref>
'''Solipsism as reason for containment''': Furthermore, being [[neoteny|neotenous]] and prone to cry like children, nobody likes to correct women, so they develop severe [[solipsism]], insanity and unbearable nastiness, hence people prefer to keep their behaviors tightly constrained. Islamistic scholars and imams, often talk about female insanity and throughout human history intellectuals all over the world have reported of insufferable female behavior, e.g. [[Otto Weininger]] summarized femininity as "vapid horniness" despite womens lower [[sex drive]] (see [[timeless quotes on women]]).
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'''Sexual selection''': Selection for submissive women has plausibly a number of self-reinforcing effects (feedback loops), e.g. any kind of sexual dimorphism gets amplified by [[sexual selection]] as being more feminine or more masculine enhance the attraction.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Even_chickens_prefer_sexually_dimorphic_human_faces.2C_to_the_same_extent_as_humans</ref>


== Cross-cultural evidence female subordination ==
== Cross-cultural evidence female subordination ==
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