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'''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]], and [[Steve Hoca]] as a singular vlogging group with a website [https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/]. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online. Looking back, TFL is best thought of as the beginning of incel vlogging on Youtube, centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends and [[Kent]]'s friends, and their vlogging style. Over 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008. The TFL movement as a self-identified, cohesive group of vloggers is mostly gone gone, slowly dying out as the incel label became more popular on youtube. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incel or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger. The only difference between TFL and incel communties are that TFLers tended to be unaware of the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white, with incel vloggers being about half non-white instead. | '''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was started and promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]], and [[Steve Hoca]] as a singular vlogging group with a website [https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/]. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online. Looking back, TFL is best thought of as the beginning of incel vlogging on Youtube, centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends and [[Kent]]'s friends, and their vlogging style. Over 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008. The TFL movement as a self-identified, cohesive group of vloggers is mostly gone gone, slowly dying out as the incel label became more popular on youtube. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incel or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger. The only difference between TFL and incel communties are that TFLers tended to be unaware of the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white, with incel vloggers being about half non-white instead. | ||
==Modern TFL== | ==Modern TFL== |