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moving nkl controversy to nkl's page. it's not noteworthy enough provided how much peterson and others have raised the point of polygamy and monogamy ("enforcing" this was not novel, it's pure speculation)
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Jordan is similar to an early Tucker Carlson in many respects with regards to women and dating, as both implied that female nature is a just/rational sorter of male character, and that it is unmanly and hence bad to complain.  Tucker has turned 180 degrees on this rhetoric since his first statements, and Jordan about 90 degrees.
Jordan is similar to an early Tucker Carlson in many respects with regards to women and dating, as both implied that female nature is a just/rational sorter of male character, and that it is unmanly and hence bad to complain.  Tucker has turned 180 degrees on this rhetoric since his first statements, and Jordan about 90 degrees.
When Peterson first mentioned "enforced monogamy" in early May 2018,<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html</ref>
[[incels.co]] user NKL insinuated<ref>http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/05/20/incels-embrace-jordan-peterson-after-he-calls-for-enforced-monogamy/</ref> Peterson had been "directly cribbing from him" this talking point as NKL had mentioned it prior to Peterson on the Incelcast on April 24th<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-incelcast-3-addressing-the-toronto-attack-guests-wanted.38753/</ref>
(deleted on May 4th)<ref>https://incels.co/threads/youtube-takes-down-incelcast-episode-3.41184/</ref>
which was viewed enough to be heavily cited by digital media.<ref>https://globalnews.ca/news/4166830/toronto-van-attack-what-is-incel/</ref><ref>https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/103389087/a-brief-foray-into-the-disturbing-world-of-internet-subcultures</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/raw-hatred-why-incel-movement-targets-terrorises-women</ref><ref>https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/evqwww/how-the-incel-community-is-reckoning-with-the-toronto-van-attack</ref><ref>https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/d3k3ex/jordan-peterson-enforced-monogamy-incels</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/raw-hatred-why-incel-movement-targets-terrorises-women</ref>
The episode gained 3,218 views by April 29th<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180429060427/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnUmeB46Cc</ref>
and possibly substantially more in the days before deletion.{{citation needed}}
On the other hand, enforced monogamy is an established term in anthropology<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22enforced%20monogamy%22</ref> and Peterson has been talking about the importance of monogamy before, claiming "women and men alike" need to take responsibility for their promiscuity and reject the "misbegotted idea of casual sexual gratification".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><ref>https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/new-years-letter</ref>
The problems of polygamy have also been raised with substantial publicity e.g. by Angela Nagle<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbrgbK32Eug</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLNIO18sruA</ref> in 2017 and Roger Devlin in 2015.<ref>https://www.counter-currents.com/product/sexual-utopia-in-power/</ref>


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