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{{person|name=Jordan Peterson|occupation=Professor of Psychology|birthday=June 12, 1962|ethnicity=Irish, Norweigan, possibly other| image=File:Jordanpeterson.jpg}} | {{person|name=Jordan Peterson|occupation=Professor of Psychology|birthday=June 12, 1962|ethnicity=Irish, Norweigan, possibly other| image=File:Jordanpeterson.jpg}} | ||
'''Jordan Bernt Peterson''' (born June 12, 1962) is a clinical psychologist, self-help guru and professor of psychology at University of Toronto. He describes himself as a classical liberal, | '''Jordan Bernt Peterson''' (born June 12, 1962) is a clinical psychologist, self-help guru and professor of psychology at University of Toronto. He describes himself as a classical liberal, centrist, and advocate for individualism, and a free speech advocate. He has been labeled [[neoliberal]] and [[tradcon]]. | ||
Peterson is sometimes [[blackpill|blackpilled]]. However, different from most blackpillers, he does not support the complete reversal of female emancipation and he does not regard [[lookism]] and superficiality as urgent issues. | Peterson is sometimes [[blackpill|blackpilled]]. However, different from most blackpillers, he does not support the complete reversal of female emancipation and he does not regard [[lookism]] and superficiality as urgent issues. | ||
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him. […] the cure for that is enforced monogamy. That's actually why monogamy emerges."<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html</ref> | him. […] the cure for that is enforced monogamy. That's actually why monogamy emerges."<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html</ref> | ||
Some female critics of fairly high academic status have in response accused Peterson of being an incel himself (which is of course impossible in the years he had his [[sex haver|two children]]),<ref>https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/16/leftist-prof-slams-incel-misogynist-jordan-peterson-as-white-nationalist-peterson-responds</ref> in response to which Peterson threatened to sue on grounds of libel, in response to which some of them apologized | Some female critics of fairly high academic status have in response accused Peterson of being an incel himself (which is of course impossible in the years he had his [[sex haver|two children]]),<ref>https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/16/leftist-prof-slams-incel-misogynist-jordan-peterson-as-white-nationalist-peterson-responds</ref> in response to which Peterson threatened to sue on grounds of libel, in response to which some of them apologized.<ref>https://dailycaller.com/2018/06/15/jordan-peterson-lawsuit-threat-professor-incel/</ref> | ||
== Beliefs and philosophy == | == Beliefs and philosophy == | ||
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=== Incels on Peterson === | === Incels on Peterson === | ||
Despite his short rhetoric on 'enforced monogamy', Jordan's ideas and lectures had poor reception on various incel communities. Mostly because of his '[[neoliberal|muh bootstraps]]' and [[chadsplaining]] rhetoric, blaming MGTOWs and incels for their own sexual failure (most of the time), even | Despite his short rhetoric on 'enforced monogamy', Jordan's ideas and lectures had poor reception on various incel communities. Mostly because of his '[[neoliberal|muh bootstraps]]' and [[chadsplaining]] rhetoric, blaming MGTOWs and incels for their own sexual failure (most of the time), even though most incels have tried to improve themselves. Jordan promoted [[psychiatry]] as a solution to some societal problems, but then ended up in drug rehab for a brutal physical dependence to psychiatric medication taken as prescribed. | ||
[[File:Disp.png|500px|thumb|left|The [[blackpill|blackpilled]] futility of self-help with regards to dating in a gynocentric society. Peterson did admit that divorce laws are stacked against men, however, only after MGTOWs piled on him.]]{{clear}} | [[File:Disp.png|500px|thumb|left|The [[blackpill|blackpilled]] futility of self-help with regards to dating in a gynocentric society. Peterson did admit that divorce laws are stacked against men, however, only after MGTOWs piled on him.]]{{clear}} | ||
Jordan is similar to an early Tucker Carlson in many respects with regards to women and dating, as both implied that female nature is a just/rational sorter of male character, and that it is unmanly and hence bad to complain. Tucker has turned 180 degrees on this rhetoric since his first statements, and Jordan about 90 degrees. | Jordan is similar to an early Tucker Carlson in many respects with regards to women and dating, as both implied that female nature is a just/rational sorter of male character, and that it is unmanly and hence bad to complain. Tucker has turned 180 degrees on this rhetoric since his first statements, and Jordan about 90 degrees. | ||
Some incels have accused Peterson of hypocrisy, e.g. because on Joe Rogan's podcast Peterson completely avoided answering a difficult question he was asked several times throughout: "If you say competition is healthy (using the basketball team analogy) then how come competition is bad when it comes to sex?"<ref>ask Jet112 where this comes from, he wrote it and I remember his saying it too</ref> | Some incels have accused Peterson of hypocrisy, e.g. because on Joe Rogan's podcast Peterson completely avoided answering a difficult question he was asked several times throughout: "If you say competition is healthy (using the basketball team analogy) then how come competition is bad when it comes to sex?"{{citation needed}}<ref>ask Jet112 where this comes from, he wrote it and I remember his saying it too</ref> | ||
When Peterson first mentioned "enforced monogamy", [[incels.co]] user NKL insinuated Peterson had been "directly cribbing from him" this talking point as NKL had mentioned it prior to Peterson | When Peterson first mentioned "enforced monogamy" in early May 2018,<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html</ref> | ||
[[incels.co]] user NKL insinuated<ref>http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/05/20/incels-embrace-jordan-peterson-after-he-calls-for-enforced-monogamy/</ref> Peterson had been "directly cribbing from him" this talking point as NKL had mentioned it prior to Peterson on the Incelcast on April 24th<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-incelcast-3-addressing-the-toronto-attack-guests-wanted.38753/</ref> | |||
(deleted on May 4th)<ref>https://incels.co/threads/youtube-takes-down-incelcast-episode-3.41184/</ref> | |||
which was viewed enough to be heavily cited by digital media.<ref>https://globalnews.ca/news/4166830/toronto-van-attack-what-is-incel/</ref><ref>https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/103389087/a-brief-foray-into-the-disturbing-world-of-internet-subcultures</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/raw-hatred-why-incel-movement-targets-terrorises-women</ref><ref>https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/evqwww/how-the-incel-community-is-reckoning-with-the-toronto-van-attack</ref><ref>https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/d3k3ex/jordan-peterson-enforced-monogamy-incels</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/raw-hatred-why-incel-movement-targets-terrorises-women</ref> | |||
The episode gained 3,218 views by April 29th.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20180429060427/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnUmeB46Cc</ref> | |||
On the other hand, enforced monogamy is an established term in anthropology<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22enforced%20monogamy%22</ref> and Peterson has been talking about the importance of monogamy before, claiming "women and men alike" need to take responsibility for their promiscuity and reject the "misbegotted idea of casual sexual gratification".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><ref>https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/new-years-letter</ref> | On the other hand, enforced monogamy is an established term in anthropology<ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22enforced%20monogamy%22</ref> and Peterson has been talking about the importance of monogamy before, claiming "women and men alike" need to take responsibility for their promiscuity and reject the "misbegotted idea of casual sexual gratification".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><ref>https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/new-years-letter</ref> | ||
The problems of polygamy have also been raised with substantial publicity e.g. by Angela Nagle<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbrgbK32Eug</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLNIO18sruA</ref> in 2017 and Roger Devlin in 2015.<ref>https://www.counter-currents.com/product/sexual-utopia-in-power/</ref> | |||
Nevertheless, many incels like Peterson for his blunt takes on sexual dynamics, and many incels are outright Peterson fanboys. | |||
Nevertheless, many incels like | |||
=== MGTOWs on Peterson === | === MGTOWs on Peterson === | ||