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'''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]], and [[Steve Hoca]]. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online and their ideas have become what is today’s Incel community | '''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]], and [[Steve Hoca]]. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online and their ideas have become what is today’s Incel community. Although some vloggers still fit more into the TFL mold than the incel mold or still and Steve Hoca still ocassionally comes out with content. The TFL movement as an identifiable group is almost gone, slowly dying out as the incel label becomes more popular on youtube. There is also heavy overlap between the TFL and incel vloggers now. | ||
==Modern TFL== | ==Modern TFL== | ||