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==Incel Forum attitudes toward self-confidence 'training'==
==Incel Forum attitudes toward self-confidence 'training'==
Incels and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]] argue that large amounts of [[confidence]] can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist).  But instead through successful interactions with women.  And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself.  Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence' but rather one will be confident that one will fail based on previous patterns, and telling people to hack how your body naturally evaluates patterns is poor advice with a low success rate.
Incels and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]] argue that large amounts of [[confidence]] can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist).  But instead through successful interactions with women.  And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself.  Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence'.  Incels are confident for example.  They are confident that they will fail based on previous patterns, and they believe telling people to hack how their body naturally evaluates patterns is poor advice with a low success rate.


==Does 'Game' Work?==
==Does 'Game' Work?==
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