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Self-identified incels believe that some of the above might be true, but regardless they (and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]]) argue that large amounts of confidence can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist). But instead through successful interactions with women. And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself. Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence' but rather one will be confident that one will fail based on previous patterns, and telling people to hack how your body naturally evaluates patterns is poor advice with a low success rate. | Self-identified incels believe that some of the above might be true, but regardless they (and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]]) argue that large amounts of confidence can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist). But instead through successful interactions with women. And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself. Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence' but rather one will be confident that one will fail based on previous patterns, and telling people to hack how your body naturally evaluates patterns is poor advice with a low success rate. | ||
Many people scammed by pick up artist sites like TRP learn that taking TRP advice and approaching women with a good 'mental-frame' while ugly and/or low status can get one filed with harassment claims etc. People that were successful with [[PUA]] sites like TRP most likely already had the looks, money and/or status necessary to be successful, and the pick up artist community just got the person to approach more women than before, increasing the amount of dates that person was able to go on. Learning 'game' probably increased the amount of positive attention that person received, but also negative attention, and that person only focused on the positive attention arriving at the conclusion that his success rate went up an enormous amount. | Many people scammed by pick up artist sites like TRP learn that taking TRP advice and approaching women with a good 'mental-frame' while ugly and/or low status can get one filed with harassment claims etc. People that were successful with [[PUA]] sites like TRP most likely already had the looks, money and/or status necessary to be successful, and the pick up artist community just got the person to approach more women than before, increasing the amount of dates that person was able to go on. Learning 'game' probably increased the amount of positive attention that person received, but also negative attention, and that person only focused on the positive attention arriving at the conclusion that his success rate went up an enormous amount. Many, but not all incels also believe that TRP and the [[PUA]] community can overhype the benefits of [[gymcel|gymcelling]] for men with a small or short stature/physical-frame. | ||
==Feminists and Therapists== | ==Feminists and Therapists== | ||