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[[File:PUA.jpg|thumb|right|<center>PUAs target the most vulnerable people</center>]] | [[File:PUA.jpg|thumb|right|<center>PUAs target the most vulnerable people</center>]] | ||
A '''pickup artist''' or '''PUA''' is a person who claims he can help incels get laid and get [[IOI]]s through social manipulation ("game") or social fraud ("faking it"). Funnily enough, this is the same approach to incels taken by [[ | A '''pickup artist''' or '''PUA''' is a person who claims he can help incels get laid and get [[IOI]]s through social manipulation ("game") or social fraud ("faking it"). Funnily enough, this is the same approach to incels taken by [[CBT|psychologists]], [[feminism|psychiatrists]], and [[feminists]]... and virtually everyone nowadays despite them falsly claiming to hate PUA type advice. The idea that one can dramatically change ones own personal life in modern America while mostly ignoring fundamental life issues (like ugliness, or poverty) is also an underlying principle of [[cognitive behavioral therapy]], the most widely practiced professional therapy mode in the US which has failed to slow down the increase in suicides. | ||
Pick-up-artistry, if it were to work, would promote [[selfish replicator|selfish replication]]. | Pick-up-artistry, if it were to work, would promote [[selfish replicator|selfish replication]]. | ||
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The first website where what we now know as the Blackpill was widely expoused was the forum puahate.com, which original purpose was the expose "the lies and scams of the PUA industry", eventually morphing into a manosphere forum where a major theme emerged of women being primarily attracted to a man's [[LMS]] (looks, money,status) in other words his "objective" value to women in opposition to more vague concepts like personality and game. | The first website where what we now know as the Blackpill was widely expoused was the forum puahate.com, which original purpose was the expose "the lies and scams of the PUA industry", eventually morphing into a manosphere forum where a major theme emerged of women being primarily attracted to a man's [[LMS]] (looks, money,status) in other words his "objective" value to women in opposition to more vague concepts like personality and game. | ||
The major extant proponents of PUA | The major 2010s extant proponents of PUA were the subreddit [[R/TRP]] (which promotes a more holistic approach to PUA, as well as incorporating the concept of female hypergamy) and the PUA company [[Real Social Dynamics]]. | ||
Given the advent of the #metoo movement and the rise of online dating, it's pretty clear the PUA industry is increasingly moribund, but still somewhat influential. | Given the advent of the #metoo movement and the rise of online dating, it's pretty clear the PUA industry is increasingly moribund, but still somewhat influential. | ||
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==Incels vs. Pick Up Artists== | ==Incels vs. Pick Up Artists== | ||
The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities. One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to | The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities. One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to exposing pick up artists during first years of the site. Similarly [[r/TRP]] hates on incels. The difference is in philosophy. | ||
PUAs (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] almost exclusively. | PUAs (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] almost exclusively. | ||