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'''Asperger's Syndrome''' is a development disorder that can contribute to someones [[incel]]dom. People with Asperger's often experience difficulty socializing and blending in with normies. On the other hand, they are often expcetionally good at recognizing patterns and investigating certain topics with intense focus. People with Aspergers are often targets of pickup artists who scam them into buying into their ineffective programs.  People with asperger's famously suffer from the, "[[Attraction ambiguity problem]]".
'''Asperger's Syndrome''' is a developmental disorder that can contribute to someones [[incel]]dom. People with Asperger's often experience difficulty socializing and blending in with [[normies]]. On the other hand, they are often exceptionally good at recognizing patterns and investigating certain topics with intense focus. People with Aspergers are often targets of pickup artists who scam them into buying into their ineffective programs.  People with Asperger's famously suffer from the, "[[Attraction ambiguity problem]]".


==Free Lesson for Aspies==
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== Extreme Male Brain Theory ==
== Extreme Male Brain Theory ==
A major controversial theory of the etiology (cause) of ASD is known as the extreme male brain theory. The theory first proposed by the world famous autism researcher from the University of Cambridge, Simon Baron-Cohen, states that the major cause of ASD is excessive exposure to androgens (male sex hormones) during pre-natal development. '''Baron-Cohen does not claim that persons with ASD are more 'masculine' then neuro-typicals, a point often lost on laymen'''. Baron-Cohen merely asserts that this 'extreme' masculinity takes form in a deficit of empathy in ASD individuals, as well as an increase in their mental tendency to attempt to systemise information they receive from the external enviroment, which a major cause of the obsessional interests and social deficits displayed by those with the disorder.  
A major controversial theory of the etiology (cause) of ASD is known as the extreme male brain theory. The theory first proposed by the world famous autism researcher from the University of Cambridge, Simon Baron-Cohen, states that the major cause of ASD is excessive exposure to androgens (male sex hormones) during pre-natal development. '''Baron-Cohen does not claim that persons with ASD are more 'masculine' then neuro-typicals, a point often lost on laymen'''. Baron-Cohen merely asserts that this 'extreme' masculinity takes form in a deficit of empathy in ASD individuals, as well as an increase in their mental tendency to attempt to systemise information they receive from the external environment, which a major cause of the obsessional interests and social deficits displayed by those with the disorder.  


It has also been proposed <ref>https://www.academia.edu/36525083/ADHD_Autism_and_Psychopathy_as_Life_Strategies_The_Role_of_Risk_Tolerance_on_Evolutionary_Fitness</ref> that ASD represents a 'failed' male evolutionary adaption, whereas the disorders that are similar in their etiology and pathology in some respects to autism such as Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder(ADHD) and Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD, commonly known as 'psychopathy') represent more beneficial adaptions in general <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bnnr6r/teenage_boys_with_adhd_are_much_more_successful/</ref>, particularly the "dark triad" personality traits associated with ASPD, and are probably not 'trainable' but rather innate, contra r/theredpill.<ref> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273809664_The_Dark_Triad_personality_Attractiveness_to_women</ref>
It has also been proposed <ref>https://www.academia.edu/36525083/ADHD_Autism_and_Psychopathy_as_Life_Strategies_The_Role_of_Risk_Tolerance_on_Evolutionary_Fitness</ref> that ASD represents a 'failed' male evolutionary adaption, whereas the disorders that are similar in their etiology and pathology in some respects to autism such as Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder(ADHD) and Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD, commonly known as 'psychopathy') represent more beneficial adaptions in general <ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bnnr6r/teenage_boys_with_adhd_are_much_more_successful/</ref>, particularly the "dark triad" personality traits associated with ASPD, and are probably not 'trainable' but rather innate, contra [[r/trp]].<ref> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273809664_The_Dark_Triad_personality_Attractiveness_to_women</ref>
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== Relationship between Autism and Physical Attractiveness ==
== Relationship between Autism and Physical Attractiveness ==
In apparent contrast with the extreme male brain theory, there is some research indicating those (male and female) are more physically androgynous then NTs, possibly contributing to the higher incidence of [[inceldom]] among autists. A study in the Journal of Neurodevelopmental Disorders demonstrated that males with higher levels of 'autistic traits' were generally more physically feminine then males with lower levels of autistic traits and vice versa for females.
In apparent contrast with the extreme male brain theory, there is some research indicating those (male and female) are more physically androgynous then NTs, possibly contributing to the higher incidence of [[inceldom]] among autists. A study in the Journal of Neurodevelopmental Disorders demonstrated that males with higher levels of 'autistic traits' were generally more physically feminine then males with lower levels of autistic traits and vice versa for females. <ref>https://jneurodevdisorders.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s11689-015-9109-6</ref>


The authors hypothesise that it is possible that those with ASD have more androgynous physical appearance but more male brains in regards to systemising/empathising. However their findings are directly contradicted by another study using similar methodology, which found that pre-pubescent children with ASD were more facially masculine and those with more severe symptoms tended towards being the most masculinized, utilizing 3D face tracking software. <ref> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-09939-y#Sec17</ref>  
The authors hypothesise that it is possible that those with ASD have more androgynous physical appearance but more male brains in regards to systemising/empathising. However their findings are directly contradicted by another study using similar methodology, which found that pre-pubescent children with ASD were more facially masculine and those with more severe symptoms tended towards being the most masculinized, utilizing 3D face tracking software. <ref> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-09939-y#Sec17</ref>  


<ref>https://jneurodevdisorders.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s11689-015-9109-6</ref> One of the explanations given by the authors of second study are that the first study studied adults, while theirs studied children. It is possible that (my personal theory) that the social victimisation and exclusion suffered by many autists results in higher levels of cortisol and lower levels of androgens, which may result in a incomplete level of masculization of the face and body during puberty. Other explanations the studies authors gave were possible methodological errors in the first study, and since autism is not a single concrete disorder and set of universal symptons but a 'spectrum' of behaviours and neurological differences, there is the possibility that the autists higher in social deficits are more the masculinized ones, whereas those higher in systemising and obsessive interests are not.
One of the explanations given by the authors of second study are that the first study studied adults, while theirs studied children. It is possible that (my personal theory) that the social victimisation and exclusion suffered by many autists results in higher levels of cortisol and the subsequent lowering of testosterone that results from high cortisol levels, leading to a higher Cortisol/T ratio, which may result in a incomplete level of masculization of the face and body during puberty. Other explanations the authors of the series of studies gave were possible methodological errors in the first study, and since autism is not a single concrete disorder and set of universal symptoms but a 'spectrum' of behaviours and neurological differences, there is the possibility that the autists higher in social deficits are the more masculinized ones, whereas those higher in systemising and obsessive interests are not.


In accordance with the [[blackpill]] there is also some evidence that the social difficulties that those with ASD face do not only originate with the neurological traits of the disorder, but also with how those with the disorder are perceived by others. An article in the scientific journal Nature <ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40700</ref> presented a series of studies that demonstated that when shown photos and clips of social interactions(filmed via first person with a go pro camera) of a group of ASD versus neurotypical individuals, ASD individuals were, as a group perceived as significantly less attractive, dominant, likable, and fun to 'hang-out' with. They were however, perceived as roughly equally trustworthy, smart and good to live near compared to NT controls. '''Their findings also demonstrated that the  "negative first impressions of adults with ASD occurred only when audio and/or visual information was present, and not when the transcript of their speech content was evaluated. This discrepancy suggests that social presentation style rather than the substantive content of social speech drove negative impression formation of individuals with ASD.'''"
In accordance with the [[blackpill]] there is also some evidence that the social difficulties that those with ASD face do not only originate with the neurological traits of the disorder, but also with how those with the disorder are perceived by others. An article in the scientific journal Nature <ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40700</ref> presented a series of studies that demonstrated that when shown photos and clips of social interactions(filmed via first person with a go pro camera) of a group of ASD versus neurotypical individuals, ASD individuals were, as a group perceived as significantly less attractive, dominant, likeable, and fun to 'hang-out' with. They were however, perceived as roughly equally trustworthy, smart and good to live near compared to NT controls. '''Their findings also demonstrated that the  "negative first impressions of adults with ASD occurred only when audio and/or visual information was present, and not when the transcript of their speech content was evaluated. This discrepancy suggests that social presentation style rather than the substantive content of social speech drove negative impression formation of individuals with ASD.'''"


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