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==Incel Forum attitudes toward r/TRP== | ==Incel Forum attitudes toward r/TRP== | ||
Self-identified incels believe that some of the above might be true, but regardless they (and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]]) argue that large amounts of confidence can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist). But instead through successful interactions with women. And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself. Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence' but rather one will be confident that one will fail based on previous patterns, and telling people to hack | Self-identified incels believe that some of the above might be true, but regardless they (and [[MGTOW|MGTOWs]]) argue that large amounts of confidence can't be built from trying to simply change your mentality or the way you approach women (unless you are a complete autist). But instead through successful interactions with women. And that if one is ugly or low in actual [[LMS]] (looks, money, and/or status), one will rarely receive the positive female attention necessary to be confident in onesself. Incels argue everyone is confident, there is no such thing as a 'lack of confidence' but rather one will be confident that one will fail based on previous patterns, and telling people to hack how your body naturally evaluates patterns is poor advice with a low success rate. Many, but not all incels also believe that TRP and the [[PUA]] community can overhype the benefits of [[gymcel|gymcelling]] for men with a small or short stature/physical-frame. | ||
==Feminists and Therapists== | ==Feminists and Therapists== | ||