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2) Keith34545<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5FUyvHIhD2bIAvJbgbCb9Q/videos</ref> from May 2008 | 2) Keith34545<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5FUyvHIhD2bIAvJbgbCb9Q/videos</ref> from May 2008 | ||
Back in 2008, TFL was a relatively anti-feminist. It only consisted of these three and was very often mocked – especially by forums, like Sherdog Off Topic forums (usually referred to OT).<ref>http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/l-o-l-fess-up-how-many-of-you-suffer-from-true-forced-loneliness.776808/</ref> (I even remember on love-shy.com where one of the older incels mentioned how TFL’ers were kind of conspiracy theorist but they did have good points) | |||
==Philosophy== | ==Philosophy== | ||
TFL is the early version of what would become the anti-feminist version of Incel. No ideas on Incels.me are new – only the wording is new. Bill tended to be the more conspiracy theorist-related one. Dwayne tended to be the more "[[nice guy]]"-related one. Steve tended to dislike [[feminism|how women have more sexual choice than men]]. To combine the trio, you would get the victim-complex from Bill, the humanism of Dwayne, and the anti-feminism of Steve. | |||
==Sodini== | |||
Other themes of TFL included sympathizing with [[George Sodini]], who was the 2009 Collier Township shooter<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting</ref> | |||
In one video<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtr1qBTp1Q</ref> at the 24 second mark, Bill said this: "there was no fucking excuse for [[George Sodini]] to have to spend his life alone." As with some posts at alt.support.shyness, there were some who sympathized with killers on youtube. Unfortunately, now, this has turned into praising of killers. | |||
Sodini, who was the 2009 Collier Township shooter | |||
no fucking excuse for [[George Sodini]] to have to spend his life alone." As with some posts at | |||
alt.support.shyness, there were some who sympathized with killers on youtube. Unfortunately, | |||
now, this has turned into praising of killers. | |||
==Site== | |||
True Forced Loneliness Website Archive: [https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/] | True Forced Loneliness Website Archive: [https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/] | ||
==References== | ==References== |