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Abstaining from masturbation would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom, in the vast majority of cases, at least, because | Abstaining from masturbation would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom, in the vast majority of cases, at least, because | ||
# testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on [[Testosterone|T]] levels, which it doesn't) | # testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on [[Testosterone|T]] levels, which it doesn't) | ||
# | # The porn use relationship correlations are confounded by selection effects regarding [[libido|sex drive]]. | ||
In the US's long-running General Social Survey (GSS), pornography non-use was a significant predictor of sexlessness in the years 2000-2018, suggesting that abstention from pornography is generally associated with a lower sex drive, voluntarily celibacy, and perhaps a slower [[life history theory|life history speed]].<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066</ref> | In the US's long-running General Social Survey (GSS), pornography non-use was a significant predictor of sexlessness in the years 2000-2018, suggesting that abstention from pornography is generally associated with a lower sex drive, voluntarily celibacy, and perhaps a slower [[life history theory|life history speed]].<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066</ref> | ||
Conversely, an analysis of the same dataset found that men with higher pornography consumption reported a greater number of lifetime sexual partners, along with extramarital sex partners, and they were also more likely to pay for sex.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2011.628132</ref> | Conversely, an analysis of the same dataset found that men with higher pornography consumption reported a greater number of lifetime sexual partners, along with extramarital sex partners, and they were also more likely to pay for sex.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2011.628132</ref> | ||
Men who use porn more frequently also report a higher desire for marriage.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-020-01793-w</ref> | Men who use porn more frequently also report a higher desire for marriage.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-020-01793-w</ref> Porn use in men is also associated with greater engagement in certain dominant sexual behaviors, controlling for a number of factors, further suggesting that heavy porn users may be faster life strategists.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609520300473</ref> | ||
Men who report high intercourse frequency in partnered sex (it is not clear if this is true for sex in general) do tend to masturbate less, though it is more likely that since men display a compensatory pattern for masturbation (which is not generally found among women) this suggests that men masturbate more when they can't get sex rather than the masturbation being the cause of them not being able to get sex.<ref>https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02305-8</ref> Fischer & Træen (2022) found evidence for the existence of 'clusters' of heavy masturbators who were sexually satisfied, and heavy masturbators who were highly sexually unsatisfied, as opposed to high sex satisfaction/low masturbation and low sexual satisfaction/low masturbation, suggesting that incels who masturbate a lot are simply those with higher sex drives, but have issues finding partners to fulfill these drives. Whereas men who do not use porn and do not enter relationships seem to trend towards being asexual.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3947171/</ref> | Men who report high intercourse frequency in partnered sex (it is not clear if this is true for sex in general) do tend to masturbate less, though it is more likely that since men display a compensatory pattern for masturbation (which is not generally found among women) this suggests that men masturbate more when they can't get sex rather than the masturbation being the cause of them not being able to get sex.<ref>https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02305-8</ref> Fischer & Træen (2022) found evidence for the existence of 'clusters' of heavy masturbators who were sexually satisfied, and heavy masturbators who were highly sexually unsatisfied, as opposed to high sex satisfaction/low masturbation and low sexual satisfaction/low masturbation, suggesting that incels who masturbate a lot are simply those with higher sex drives, but have issues finding partners to fulfill these drives. Whereas men who do not use porn and do not enter relationships seem to trend towards being asexual.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3947171/</ref> | ||